"Howie! America! Freedom! Horses! Raaaarrr!" I write Gordon Howie's Independent Senate campaign slogan, then discuss what seems to be our mutual desire for civility and policy-based political debate:
Curious: in the South Dakota blogosphere, who's civil, and who's trading on too much rancor? How are we doing right here on the Madville Times, in our posts and our comments, in living up to the political spirit Howie and I discuss?
Wrong video, Cory.
Whoops you got it changed as I was posting.
A perfect example of that which Mr Howie and you are speaking, Cory, is one of the main reasons that Mike Rounds lists as a reason to vote for him. He says that it is important to vote for him so that the Republicans can regain control of the US Senate. I have not heard one of the other 4 Republican candidates use that as a reason, much less a leading reason to vote for them.
Until the United State comes ahead of Party, the issue of which you speak will never get corrected. I remember the first televised debates, at which time the media was unquestionably leftist. John Kennedy had a make up person to prepare his face to look okay for the TV cameras. Richard Nixon did not. One of the first things out of the commentators mouth after the debates were over, was how ghostly Richard NIxon looked and there was much discussion afterwards that is why he lost the debate and eventually the election. As if, how someone looks is the most important thing when it comes to who or what they are.
Cory I agree with you and Gordon to a point. I think there is a bit of a false equivalence.
Who been doing the name calling? Maybe it's the primary but the Republican candidates have been talking about the Obama scandals that don't exist and of course, in Rounds case, telling outright lies about the ACA. The republicans want to take away my health insurance and replace it with what? Free market? I'd never be able to get insurance. So yes I'll come out swinging.
Take a look at Rhoden's ad saying liberals want to end life as we know it. Guess what, as a liberal that ticks me off and I take it as personal. That is why liberals respond in kind. Liberals have had a reputation of being weak, and in some cases its true. But no more!
dear curious-as i may have said before on various formats; but off the top of my head, yes (e.g.):
1. marty/joop/sveen
2. unrelated issue: suicide
3. obviously fake bozz
4. hickey sex
5. 1000 frenemys (also noticed dwc types calling you out for character assassination during debacle).
slander may be a slippery slope. of course, if huffington post picks it up, maybe worth the risk? wonder about journalistic ethics in blogs. bottom line-harm no one. buddha
Posts and comments in Madville are interesting and entertaining. I enjoy watching personalities evolve through comments made, posts responded to, reactions to other commenters. It seems to me that comments lean more toward substantive issue discussions than personal attacks.
Of course, attacks do happen, but even then, there are certain limits on them which most Madizens seem to have internalized. The Times culture appears to include relationships of familiarity among comments and Posters
Hate to tell you Deb, but that is not ALWAYS the case. I almost fell off my chair this morning laughing so hard at larry's response to grudz inviting him to breakfast in North Rapid. (although I see Cory has cleaned it up a bit.)
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Posts and comments in Madville are interesting and entertaining. I enjoy watching personalities evolve through comments made, posts responded to, reactions to other commenters. It seems to me that comments lean more toward substantive issue discussions than personal attacks.
Of course, attacks do happen, but even then, there are certain limits on them which most Madizens seem to have internalized. The Times culture appears to include relationships of familiarity among commenters and posters that have bred respect, understanding, and even a fondness, for the most part.
Some of us have developed a sense of ownership here. That has translated into a willingness to share responsibility for the quality of the Times.
None of that takes away from the occasional outbreaks of anger and intense, passionate disagreement. Madville Times is a gathering of complex, complicated individuals whose relationships are always in a certain state of flux, with constant rubbing against one another, creating more or less interpersonal friction. (No Grudz, not that kind of friction!)
All in all, I think the Madville Times community functions pretty darn well.
Thanks to Cory and all Madizens.
Grudz is so reasonable and intelligent.
Most of all, Grudz is entertaining!
The last time wingnuts had control of the Senate they jam-packed the judiciary with every far right fruitcake they could conjure up. Most are in there for life and then they rubberstamped uncontrolled spending and military adventures while trying to push women and workers back into the early 19thy century.They want to control people's morals-ours-not theirs.
For a political blog Madville is for the most part civil, I enjoy a lot of the back and forth, particularly when there are discussions of substance.
I do get testy at times, especially when I detect racism, prejudice or inequality. When that happens, I show my bad side.
As far as national civil discourse, those days are history. Since President started campaigning to, his twice being elected president, there has been an increase in hate speech that has flowed into almost all political discussions.
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His request went viral and 'Facebook' is putting together for him a memorial video to
celebrate his son's life.
When Roger C. has a weak or irrelevant point and the holes are blown in it, he always responds with his racist card. Much easier than thinking.
When Wiken does think, which is a rarity, he can't get beyond his little sphere of being anti-mythology and yet has the mythical thinking that his redundancy will change centuries old culture and traditions.
I don't need to play the race card, Wiken does it for me.
In his last full-length book, Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?,[Martin Luther] King wrote of reparations: “A society that has done something SPECIAL against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something SPECIAL for him, in order to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis” (1967:95). (my emphasis; wik, whose evolving rationalization against professional apologists of SPECIALNESS has been baiting many of us here for at least the last year or so!)
My major at CSU in early 70s emphasized living against ethnocentrism.
As Ellis Cose demonstrates in The End of Anger: A New Generation’s Take on Race and Rage, “old-fashioned racism grows weaker by the day” (cited in Ford 2011).
However, the new-fashioned racism is the structure of economic and political inequality.***The inequalities are in the present, not the past (however today's value of just the gold taken out of the sacred black hills by homestake is $51.3 billion). The inequalities of the present have not been addressed. Despite the beliefs of many whites, there has not been a political-economic shift which concentrates resources with non-whites, as Gary Younge analyzes in What ever happened to Martin Luther King’s dream?
There is no sense pretending people are not biologically varied or that people don’t notice. Babies notice! More importantly, we have to acknowledge that our society is structured on white privilege. If we want to do something about that, we need to admit it and understand it.
http://www.livinganthropologically.com/anthropology/biological-anthropology-racism/
Bull's eye, Mr. England!
Cory, Cory, Cory - that vest and those whiskers! What decade is it? Don't get mad at me, but if I was the wife would I ever have a talk with you!
Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, You must not have heard about Dr Bosworth's press conference today. Men are not supposed to say anything about women's looks, so I would have to presume that the same would be true vice versa.
You have a point, Lanny.
Ethnocentrism is in the mind of the ethnocentrist. There is no less ethnocentrism in praising Native American mythology than there is in praising White adaptation to the reality of a modern world. It is six of one and a half dozen of the other.
The whining about a long-gone obsolete past never to be repeated unless climate crash destroys human life for a few eons, is just a good excuse for failure.
What was that I said about redundancy?