DSCC be darned, Rick Weiland continues to get help from national Democrats. Howard Dean is saying he likes Weiland, and he's pitching Weiland's populism in a fundraising e-mail for Democracy for America:
If elected, Rick Weiland has vowed to introduce a constitutional amendment to repeal Citizens United and McCutcheon, restoring government to the people. It's an amendment that Mike Rounds and his Republican allies would vehemently oppose.
If Rick Weiland wins, we'll have an excellent shot to save the Senate from GOP control [Howard Dean, fundraising e-mail, posted on Daily Kos, 2014.06.23].
Contrary to the evidently ineffective and quickly forgotten attacks of Rounds's primary opponents, Dean brands Rounds as right of right:
Mike Rounds has made a name for himself as a far-right governor. For example, he signed the clearly unconstitutional law banning all abortions except those necessary to save a woman's life. It was too extreme for South Dakota, as voters repealed that law.
It's a sign of what we can expect in the Senate if Mike Rounds wins -- and that's why Republicans and their billionaire funders want to flip this seat from the Democrats. If they succeed, Mike Rounds will help implement a Tea Party agenda that attacks women's rights while undermining the battle against income inequality [Dean, 2014.06.23].
Branding Rounds as Tea Party overstates the case. It's the same sort of lazy extremism that leads Republicans to brand President Obama a radical Marxist instead of doing the hard work of distinguishing his mostly centrist policies from the alternatives they would offer. But Dean's attack is accurate in noting that Rounds has supported radical right-wing abortion restrictions and that his corporate-cronyism would hinder our fight against economic injustice.
Forget the Tea Party labels; those latter two points are what Rick Weiland and friends like Howard Dean should hammer on.
this is a very important race. after Obama was elected we stood around slack jawed as repubs unleashed full-scale warfare. wow. losing the senate is gonna be world-changing. each of us must do everything possible to get rick elected.
Rick needs to be elected for what he stands for, keeping control of the senate would just be a bonus.
You're right Cory, for Howie to effectively take votes away from Rounds, there has to be a clear distinction between the two.
MSNBC's "The Ed Show" has invited Rick to be on with them again this afternoon. Ed Schultz is joining a group of national pundits who realize the South Dakota senate seat is turning into a toss-up race. Tune in for "The Ed Show" and see Rick live at 5 PM EST and 4 PM CST today on MSNBC.
Of course, Rounds is far right. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and governs like a duck, then it's a far-right duck. Just because there are some people even further to the extreme right doesn't mean Rounds gets graded on a curve. Of course cronyism is the bigger issue with Rounds, but I still deplore grading on the curve.
How do you really know Howie is trying to take votes from Rounds? In the end, they are both the same kind of tea bagging republican knuckleheads that are dragging the country down. Howie's spots did not change and neither has Rounds, both are reckless with the truth and have some shady backgrounds in politics and poaching.
I like Dean, but he needs to argue a bit differently for Weiland.
In his governing days Dean combined a fiscally conservative stance with his progressivism. That's what can win in a state like South Dakota. Making arguments that might apply to a liberal out-of-state base does not help Weiland in South Dakota, and may hurt him.
The classic progressive movement of old (which had Republican leadership) grew out of a reaction against corrupt government and corrupting big business. Rounds has more in common with the sleazy corruption of the Republican establishment, not the raging craziness of the Tea Party.
The raging craziness of the tea party has everything to do with corruption Mr. Pay. As that is the case with Mr. Rounds, of course he is a tea bagger, Dean is correct.
Sorry Mr. Pay, I meant to post this to show the connection with craziness and corruption http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jenny-beth-martin-and-tea-party-patriots-work-to-unseat-the-establishment-in-mississippi/2014/06/22/5f58f7fc-f8a2-11e3-8aa9-dad2ec039789_story.html
Its all about the moolah baby.
With all the baggage of Common Core, EB 6, etc. if this Republican has only Rounds to vote for I shall wear a clothespin on my lapel to help handle the stench. He is a moderate to liberal insider Republican who managed to kiss the south end headed north of the insider liberal Republican lawyers. He bought the primary with his money. Pheww!!!
Phooey on the clothespin Mr. Freema, you will stand and deliver for your party as usual, in a robotic sense of duty. I admire that you have no scruples. Much like the old Politburo's of the old country, what the party orders, your kind delivers. Don't worry though, as you know the stench leaves the voting booth right quick like.
Now with Democrats and Indies, we must have purity in all we do, and that was me not so long ago. I am a changed voter now thanks to my epiphany about your party's lock step voting Mr. Freema. I will now vote for the party but without a clothespin, just as a sense of duty to my country and state.
Tim, you're right: South Dakotans won't vote on the basis of Senate power. They didn't do it with Daschle; they won't do it here. Rick has to make the sale on his own merits and on Mike's errors and visionlessness.
Roger, if Dean says Rounds is Tea Party, will any Tea Partiers in South Dakota listen to him?
So, Donald, can we hit Rounds with both? Motivate Dems by reminding them of just how far right Rounds was on abortion (any other good examples, Chris?), but reach for folks across the spectrum by pointing out Rounds's likeness to the Gilded Age corporatists and portraying Weiland as a new Teddy Roosevelt?
Lies from the Democratic far-left and lies from the GOP Establishment left. Typical dysfunction in America's political arena. And the media promotes it.
Cory, you Democrats support crony capitalism. Obamacare is an example. Another example came from Mississippi's Republican primary yesterday:
In an improbable ending to a wild race, six-term Sen. Thad Cochran (R) of Mississippi defeated tea party challenger Chris McDaniel in a primary runoff vote – and did so with a critical assist from Democratic voters, many of them African-American.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Senate/2014/0625/How-Mississippi-Democrats-and-GOP-bigwigs-helped-Thad-Cochran-win
Cory,
Seriously? South Dakota Republicans listening to Dean? Not hardly, they probably don't even know who he is.
Sibson, do you even understand the meaning of crony capitalism? The ACA is hardly crony capitalism, it provides insurance for people that need it and in South Dakota Medicaid isn't available to those most in need.
The absolute best of example of crony capitalism that I have ever seen is GOED/EB-5/Northern Beef/Richard Benda scandal that Republican leadership continues to support and vote for.
""""""ACA is hardly crony capitalism, it provides insurance for people that need it a""""""a few weeks ago, of the 8mil signed up, 6Mil had prior insurance similar to our Nick Nemec and the other 2mil were questionable at that time as to currency on payment.
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Your last paragraph is on the money, Corny!
Once again Steve you don't know what you're talking about. The ACA was a lifesaver for me. I was able to use the ACA as a bridge until I found a job which will provide insurance. For me that begins on Monday.
I wasn't able to get affordable insurance without the ACA. I lived it Steve so I know what I'm talking about.
Mr. Sibson, regarding Mississippi, our sister state, they have what is called an open primary. In political terms as well as reality, which you have no clue about, anyone can vote. That would include Democrats, Independents, Atheists and republicans. The whole shebang. Pay attention before you parrot. McDaniel got spanked and now him be crying his booty off at his bad.
Les, my name is Roger. If you wish to engage in schoolyard name calling, I'll be happy to oblige you.
Roger, the Neo-Fascist Big Insurance companies are getting new customer's, subsidized by the fed. That is crony capitalism. And yes, the Neo-Fascist use the Neo-Marxist take-care-of-the-poor mantra to pull it off. Again Mississippi's GOP primary showed how a Neo-Fascist crony capitalist GOP Establishment politician used a Neo-Marxist argument to get Democratic votes and defeat the candidate who is against crony capitalism via robocalls.
Damn you exhausting Sibson!
Any comment of South Dakota's own crony capitalistic cronyism call GOED/EB-5/ Northern Beef Packers/Richard Benda murder?
Roger, I agree that the GOED/EB-5/ Northern Beef Packers is also crony capitalism, but it is not conservative and it is what the so-called tea party opposes.
Steve, did you write that comment with a straight face?
How can you that the GOED scandal is not conservative when Rounds/Daugaard implemented it and Marty Jackley refuses to investigate and by doing so provides an ongoing cover up?
Of course it is conservative, how can you not see that?
Roger, conservative principles are based on limited government policies, not those that use government to direct the market place in the name of economic development. The latter are Neo-Fascist policies.
Gosh, Sibson spills the beans. Actually all modern "conservatives" are neo-fascists. It is a wonderfully inclusive, if meaningless, term for political invective.
"Conservatives" like Rounds and SD co-conspirators and aiders and abettors are misers when it benefits them and matter who is harmed and they are spendthrifts when it benefits them and co-conspirators. The conservatism is mythology that doesn't work, but makes such wonderful talking points separated completely from reality.
cbo updated projection of 12 million newly insured this year. damn! politico 4.17.14
Douglas, Neo-Fascism is not conservative. It violates limited government policies. Economic development via governmental control is not conservative. Sadly, even South Dakota Democrats have agreed with Establishment Republicans to further the government controlled economy. Again, the Mississippi GOP Establishment was able to get Democrats to vote for the crony capitalist candidate. Us so-called extremists stand opposed to Neo-Fascists working with Neo-Marxists. We have the solution to crony capitalism. When will Democrats wake up to the deceptions?
Mississippi's GOP run off is a case in point. First we have the GOP Establishment crony capitalists on the ropes:
Back in Washington, Cochran’s most important allies resolved to muffle their anxiety and stick with him for another three weeks. The Chamber of Commerce polled the race, concluded the senator had a difficult but viable path to victory; the group began brainstorming inventive ways to make a splash in the state, culminating with a sensational commercial starring NFL legend Brett Favre.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/how-thad-cochrans-campaign-pulled-it-off-108276.html#ixzz35kajNXLH
The Neo-Fascist also used a robo call that tricked Democrats with their own cultural Neo-Marxist race card approach:
In the automated message appearing to target black Democrat voters in Mississippi, the female voice on the line claims that tea party challenger Chris McDaniel would lead to more obstruction in Washington and create more “disrespectful treatment” to the nation’s first African-American president.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/22/robocall-allegedly-recruiting-dem-votes-for-gop-sen-cochran-bashes-tea-party-alleges-racism/#ixzz35kbAwGvE
This is how the Neo-Marxist Big Government, controlled by the Neo-Fascist crony capitalist, is used to deceive and control fools.
"""""cbo updated projection of 12 million newly insured this year. damn! politico 4.17.14"""""". Bla bla bla....projection! How many of the currently new insured had insurance before ACA? How many of the rest won't make a payment?
Mr. Wiken, you are correct yet again. Mr. Sibson and his crew are Neo-Fascists. No wonder he speaks so much on the subject, he looks in the mirror each day and spots one. Good catch!
So Jerry, do you agree that Rounds is a tea bagging conservative? If so, then you are being manipulated by your party bosses. Their idea, which is also used by the GOP Establishment, is to have us hate each other based on bigotry, lies and deceptions.
""""""" is to have us hate each other based on bigotry, lies and deceptions."""""" That's the name of the game Sib, get used to it they all do it.
I believe that Rounds is a crook and a liar. Without a doubt, Rounds and all of his cohorts, bring more corruption to the table that we have seen since territory days. There is a reason we rank number 8 in the corruption category for all of the 50 states. The top 10 is no winning position for corruption, thank you Mr. Rounds and company. Whatever terminology that is appropriate for his situation, should apply. Me, I was agreeing with Mr. Wiken on his catch.
Jerry, you ducked my question, which is the very premise of Cory's post for this thread. Do you believe your party bosses premise that Rounds is a tea bagging conservative?
Les, I have given up on changing the political agenda, but I do want to expose the truth with the hope that some of us put down the guns and have a conversation about what is really going on.
Steve Sibson tells us to "put down the guns"? You o.k., Steve?
To me, you are all the same. There is no difference between you and Rounds or Rounds and the other tea bagging republicans, your all the same. You all want to destroy this country and make it to fit your needs only, to hell with the rest of us. You do not wish to live in harmony with others, only gated exclusive communities. There, I hope you understand that the enemy you seek is yourself.
Les, let's try these non-projective figures on the ACA that Rounds says Teafully that he wants to repeal but which he never will:
—57% of ACA enrollees lacked insurance previously.
—"Gallup has showed the uninsured rate dropping by about a quarter. A report finds the uninsured rate in Minnesota has fallen by 40 percent."
—[Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/republicans-finally-admit-why-they-hate-the-aca.html%5D
In early May, we learned that 80%–90% of enrollees were paying their premiums. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-insurers-speak-20140507-column.html
Cory, I thought the poetic usage would catch you attention. Sorry Jerry doesn't get it. I feel bad for those who have bought on to the hate mongering that is being fostered by both parties.
thx cory. so much for repubs' bigotry, lies and deception—[Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/republicans-finally-admit-why-they-hate-the-aca.html
smug repub claims haven't made sense since ryan's strategy dinner after or during Obama's 09 swearing in. completely sidetracked the nation's economic recovery. bush v. gore stolen election after SCOTUS usurped Fla. Supreme Court. very expensive 14 years and STILL counting. thx Boehner, thune, daugaard and loyal minions on this blog, sanborn, rcj. Obama continues home-run streak.
The Democrats continue to promote coveting in order to implement their Neo-Marxist agenda that benefits the crony capitalists. In South Dakota, who benefits the most from Obamacare? Sanford Health Systems:
http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/content/study-sanford-richest-corporation-south-dakota
Hmmm, somewhere I was told that the biggest seller of ACA insurance plans in the state of South Dakota was Wellmark. So, who is right? Is it Mr. Sibson who claims that Sanford is the biggest beneficary of the ACA or is it little ole me who says Wellmark is?
Jerry, you need to check your sources. Wellmark as not started to sell Obamacare yet:
Wellmark Blue Cross and Blue Shield will participate in the public health insurance exchange South Dakota beginning with the 2015 open enrollment period.
"As a mutual insurance company, we are ultimately accountable for making business decisions that serve the best interest of our members," said Wellmark Chairman and CEO John Forsyth. "Given what we know today, we do not believe during the first year of the public exchange could ensure the exceptional level of service our members have come to expect from Wellmark. For this reason, we have decided it is in our members’ best interest to delay our participation in the public exchange until 2015."
http://www.wellmark.com/AboutWellmark/Newsroom/Releases/20130701ExchangeDecisionSD.aspx
Wingnuts,in all their wisdom,decided the wealthy can't pay more taxes so they arbitrarily decided to take SNAP benefits from the poor,the elderly and the military. Which party is covetous? Wingnuts want only the wealthy to be rich. Which party is covetous? Wingnuts pledged allegiance to Grover Norquist's no taxes for the wealthy pledge. Which party is covetous?
Thank you for agreeing with me Mr. Sibson and for the link. Wellmark sells ACA compliant health plans Mr. Sibson. As they are compliant with the same plans that Sanford, Avera and Dakotacare sell on the exchange, they are the same. Wellmark said that it has sold more polices this past year than the others combined, so as I understand English fairly well, I am gonna step out on a limb and say that Wellmark has been the biggest beneficiary of the ACA.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2014/06/20/wellmark-rate-increases-will-not-join-exchange/11035139/
Oh oh Mike from iowa, you just nailed it so now you are gonna be called a Neo-Fascist by Mr. Sibson. When all else fails, he always manages to pull that rabbit from his hat.
Mr Sibby is getting to be a neo-broken record broken record broken record. :(
Jerry and Mike, you guys need to take English Comp. What part of delayed until 2015 don't you understand Jerry?
Mike, are all you are rich crony capitalists? For example...professional athletes?
" Wingnuts want only the wealthy to be rich."
So-called wingnuts support a free market where those getting filthy rich are engaged with competition with those who are not getting filthy rich. While signing up for English Comp, you also need to sign up for Econ 101.
And Jerry, if you argue that more people are getting healthcare because of Obamacare, then would that mean Sanford, the richest corporation in South Dakota, is getting more business? So Mike, should we promote coveting Sanford's wealth? Or are they coveting money funded via the federal debt? Since the money is funded by the federal debt, then the rich are not paying for Obamacare. The Democrats just say so to get political support from fools who don't understand English nor economics.
What part of more sales than all combined with the ACA don't you get? Here is how this stuff works Mr. Sibson. All insurance policies that were done for an issue date of Jan.1, 2014 and after, had to be ACA compliant. That would include Wellmark for one, as well as the ones on the exchange. Wellmark sold more ACA compliant policies than the other three did on the exchange combined, so that makes Wellmark the big winner. I cannot speak for Mike from Iowa on his take of what English Comp translated would be, but his link sure speaks volumes. Hey, that is it, you don't get the written word. You must have it in a video, tough luck for you tiger. Oh, I know I know, I am a neo-fascist just like you.
So it is good for you or with you that my ACA compliant welmark has gone up 250% in the last five years, Jerry? I guess it's good for folks like Nemec who get to keep their daughters on until 26.
Well, dang all those people who decide to get medical attention for what ails them. If people would stop giving birth to babies who have medical conditions. If kids would stop doing things to cause their bones to break. If people would stop having accidents that cause injuries. If people would stop getting diseases, including colds and flu, or hot appendix and etc. If people would just stop growing older and having conditions related to aging, there would be no need for medical insurance or places like Avera, Sanford, Mayo, etc.!!! Good god, people wake up and stop having medical issues. It is all your fault!!!
Mr. Les, you should read the discussion Mr. Sibson and I have been having. He said that Sanford was the big winner here in the state for the ACA and I said Wellmark. Thanks for confirming. Now, what are you going to do about that? I know I know, how about demanding from your all knowing party, why they allow those premiums to continue to rise like that. If you would read the links that have been provided here, you will see that it is up to the state to decide if a premium hike is justified. Then you should raise holly hell about it and ask why the doctors and hospitals are charging so much for services rendered. You can do it dude, you are the man. Sic'um
Exactly JeniW, if we would just stop getting hurt and stuff. To bad we cannot avoid that dang it, but we can! That is why I agree with you that this ACA is such a big and important deal. I really would add that if our wages were higher here in South Dakota, our premiums would even be lower. The link mike from iowa provided, speaks of a 5 to 6% rate increase. That is pretty much on par with medical inflation, so it is clearly working as you can see by Les's rant that his premiums have been quite staggering. To add a little to what you have said, with the wellness, well baby, vision and so on that have been added to ACA compliant policies, we will see that usage will be going down for the big ticket hits like Cancer and heart issues.
Winners ar not picked by the gross dollars, rather the dollars kept in house. They are too slippery for even you to figure out, Jer. Ins and large med wrote the darn bill, it should profit them.
Wingnuts support the wealthy. Check legislation for the last thirty years. Every acknowledgement that the least among us need help was countered by tax breaks and benefits for big bidness and korporate Amerika,more taxcuts for the richest and basically nothing for anyone else. Competition my bleeding heart liberal ass. The only competition is how fast the wealthiest can get more of the wealth the fastest.
Jerry, Wellmark is not in the exchange this year. And even if they were, can Big Insurance and a corporate Hospital both be big winners thanks to Obamacare? Or are you OK with a Hospital whose name is of one who got filthy rich from charging usury?
"The only competition is how fast the wealthiest can get more of the wealth the fastest."
And those Neo-Fascists can't do it without Neo-Marxists, both sides that hate limited government conservatives. As Mississippi Democrats proved this week, they support crony capitalist politicians like Cochran. What fools.
My humblest apologies Ms JeniW for having carried and passed on a genetic disk disease in my lower spine. It isn't all my fault. 8 of 9 siblings made it to adulthood and 5 of us have had at least one back operation. I get top prize with 4 and both of my sons have disk problems. One great niece was diagnosed at age 10 with a ruptured disk. Only one of my Mother's siblings had back problems and none on Dad's side. Both parents are deceased so I will shoulder the blame for the rest of us. BTW I farmed through all 4 operations and for 9 years after the last one and was forced to retire at 56. I won't start in on hips or shoulders. I have good knees,though. :)
Steve, if you want people to read your posts, try leaving out the neo-this and neo-that. If I see crony capitalist once more, I may lose my lunch. Try making your points with logic and reason, not perjorative categorizing.
It's worse than annoying; it's boring.
Mr. Sibson, You are so much the typical republican low interested voter. You are not interested in how the ACA works because you have money and you do not have to worry about insurance and the little nuances that happen without it (like loosing your damn house). I never said that Wellmark was in the exchange recently. Let me be clear, I one time mentioned they were in the exchange after reading it from another blogger, John T. on this page. That was it. I know perfectly well Wellmark is not in the exchange and that is not what we are discussing. You said that Sanford was the big winner of the ACA and I said they were not. I stand by my comment.
Regarding Mississippi Mr. Sibson. Your absolute racist remarks are disgusting, shame on you. We all get your dog whistle. Thad Cochran is a siting republican senator that has gone to the black community for support since he first became involved in politics in Jackson, Mississippi in the mid 1970's. If you know anything about our sister state, you will note that there is quite a large constituent of black voters concentrated around Jackson and they have consistently supported Senator Cochran for several election cycles. We get it, you and your tea party hate the dark skinned people or even beige ones. Anyone that is not white to be clear. Disgusting what you imply and in particular because it was an open primary that had poll watchers. Not one case of "voter fraud", I'll just be damned, ain't that nothing?
Mike from Iowa, I was being 100% totally sarcastic. I was born with an extremely rare bone condition that makes Osteogenesis Imperfecta look like a common disease. One of the symptoms of my condition was being born hard of hearing. I was also born with a heart murmur which rendered me to not being able to purchase health insurance due to a "pre-existing condition." I know full well the complexities of having health issues.
I apologize that my being sarcastic offended you and anyone else.
BTW, I inherited my crappy knees from my mother's side of the family. Got a lot of hair though :)
Jerry,
Here's my take on the Mississippi open primary. The powerful D.C. Republicans had to stop tea party candidate McDaniel cold. To do so Cochran appealed to Black and Independent voter and D.C. got behind the effort big time.
Republicans have been obstructionists from day 1 of the Obama Presidency, if you can imagine, the wingnuts an tea party are more so.
The Republican Party would like to wash their hands of the idiots but can't and the tea party is afraid to form a 3rd party.
The divide in the Republican Party is deeper than most would recognize, it will be interesting to see the war between Rounds and Howie here it home. In other states with the same situation as ours, they have all but broken out in full scale wars.
Mississippi tea party members have been throwing a gigantic hissy fit since Tues., they assumed because Cantor lost a few weeks ago, Cochran would too.
JeniW-I,too,was being sarcastic even though what I posted is 100% true. Like you,I have all my own hair and then some. No offense taken. :)
Roger C-some rethug bigwig was saying how ironic and racist of t-baggers to complain about Blacks voting for wingnuts. They are running out of their own feet to shoot themselves in. ROTFLMAO!!!
Jerry's latest comment is textbook Neo-Marxism for those who don't know what I am talking about. And then he defends a Neo-Fascist crony capitalist Establishment Republican, which further supports the points I have been making. These Republicans need you Democrats.
So there you go Jessie.
I appreciate all of your help in proving my analysis to be spot on.
Cochran also went to the Howard Dean school of campaigning, the GOTV in the black communities. It worked like it always does. HMMMM, when do you think South Dakota Democrats will go to that well...
Steve, that's bull. You didn't get any help from me, you just wanted to see if I would lose my lunch.
I am a neo-marxist and also a neo-Fascist..lovely.. I am on my high horse now, galloping and dropping Jim Crow horse biscuits for you to pick up Mr. Sibson.
The only thing you are proving,Sibby,is you have neo on the brain. Fortunately it isn't contagious,but it sure gets irritating. I'm setting up a voluntary fund to buy you a new word that doesn't include neo. Or maybe a muzzle.
It would be best for Madville Times bloggers not to respond to Steve Sibson's moronic posts.
I will be difficult to resist, but consider this, he brings absolutely nothing to the table with his echo chamber, why waste your time and intellect on a fool?
yup. spot on. yup. spot on. yup. spot on.