Last updated on 2014.10.19
Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Rick Weiland forges common ground with Independent gubernatorial candidate Mike Myers, telling cannabis advocate Ryan Gaddy that he supports legalizing marijuana for medical use:
Gaddy posts this video in the comment section on Weiland's dogged opposition to the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. At first, I thought, "Ryan! Get on topic!" But then I saw the Kurtzian logic: the same conventional wisdom that says conservative four-wheeling South Dakotans support a big oil pipeline says that conservative law-and-order South Dakotans will have a gut reaction against letting folks use pot in any form. Yet Weiland bucks that conventional wisdom on both issues. Weiland appears to understand that personal experience—facing a pipeline in your eminent domained backyard, or seeing a loved one suffer from cancer—changes one's conventional wisdom. Weiland is willing to pass on the easy public position and advocate for those who have learned from those challenging experiences.
Weiland scores bonus points for sporting the bolo tie. I dare you to wear the bolo Thursday night on SDPB, Rick, as you turn to Rounds and say, "The question isn't why I support medical marijuana; the question is why you won't support opening the door for doctors to prescribe a drug that can ease the suffering of our fellow South Dakotans?"
Rounds does indeed slam that door shut in this interview with Gaddy. After catching some offensive lines from Mike Huckabee's speech for Rounds last week (including Huckabee's joke that folks who don't support Rounds shouldn't register to vote) and getting campaign manager Mitch Krebs to make good on an interview request submitted last spring, Gaddy gets Rounds on the records around 5:25 saying he has no interest at all in approving medical marijuana:
Ryan did a great job and service. Of course Mike Rounds is an insurance agent and as an insurance agent the last thing Mike Rounds wants to see is a benefactor, Big Pharma, have their profits reduced. In addition to Rounds being the head of a criminal enterprise, he is also cognitive of where his bread is buttered on the campaign trail. When I see Roche or Pfizer farming Cannabis, then I will know it is game over for the prohibition, until then, there are too many billions to be made by just saying NO.
Gaddy may make more of a political difference with these two interviews than he would have with a Libertarian candidacy for PUC.
I hope the negative comments of medical marijuana are put to rest after Ryan's interview with Rick Weiland. If people can't see the stark difference in these in these 2 candidates, then something is definitely wrong. Kool Aid is much more toxic than cannabis. Ryan has been trying to get an interview with Rounds for months and his henchmen always swoop in to divert Ryan from getting an interview. MMR sure has his big pharma and prison industrial complex BS comments down pat.
You are so right Cory. I really didn't know much about marijuana until doing much research. It could be a great industry for SD. Thanks for doing this thread Cory.
Summary: Rounds, 'I don't think we should legalize chemicals. We should only legalize chemicals WITHIN chemicals. That's just good old South Dakota common sense!' :-)
Good post, Cory. When disc golf is outlawed only outlaws will play disc golf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPo7vW3mxx0
Rick told me at Rickstock that he supports a law like Minnesota's.
Unapproachable Rounds needs to protect his big industry cronies. He doesn't care about the little guy or people who are suffering.
All a sitting US Senator could do is help move cannabis from Schedule I and support a judiciary that would uphold the Ninth Amendment.
Ryan is obviously smart and intelligent but what I definitely am against are his and his gang's guerrilla marketing tactics that have been repeatedly demonstrated during this election cycle that really turn me off to any cause or candidate he is promoting and it makes me question his judgment.
Ryan is smart and articulate but......as mentioned above
If this is the way Rounds behaves during the campaign, how is he going to act if elected? We deserve someone who not only shows up but listens to our ideas, not someone who knows what is best for us.
Thank you Cory for this posting. We are protesting Rounds and Daugaard at Keloland wednesday oct 22 at 6 p.m. we hope the Democrats will join us to send a message to be to Prohibition as the people should not be forced to move out of South Dakota for equal medical treatments found in other parts of the country
Another Rounds video http://youtu.be/Gd5Hx0NFcuw
It was interesting to watch on the History channel about how at one point there were no "illegal" drugs, even though those drugs had been in use for a long time. The drugs became "illegal" because women, and minorities were using them for pain relief, medical purposes, as well as for recreational purposes.
Women and minorities were using those drugs because, in part, they were not allowed in bars to consume alcohol.
I do not advocate use of drugs for entertainment/recreational purposes, but since I use OTC drugs to reduce the pain of arthritis, I cannot object to people using marijuana for medical purposes.
Lynn, at least Ryan, as a young dude, is out there taking part in the political process. So many young people are disinterested in politics.
Great post Cory! Thanks for getting the candidates position on record Ryan! The more young voters who see this, the more that will likely show up for this election to vote.
Lora Hubbel on Medical Cannabis https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1445578692352521&set=vb.1429937490583308&type=3&theater
Developing: Colorado health officials want to ban cannabis edibles. My view is that they should be reserved for patients to manage pain and not for a general adult market.
Does this mean that Ryan Gaddy will not only vote for the senate candidate that advocates medical marijuana usage, but that he will actively campaign for him?
Roger when you check these various facebook pages Gaddy has for Medical pot it's mostly kids working at fast food joints or low pay service jobs that are all eager for it to be legalized which really makes me question the validity of the legalization effort.
Ryan, I'm glad you'll have some people at the Daugaard—Wismer—Myers debate Wednesday. Can you roust up another crowd for the Weiland-Pressler-Howie-Rounds debate Thursday? And has your group picked a candidate to endorse in that race?
If it means anything, Lori Stacey posted via Tara Volesky on Facebook that she was supporting Gordon Howie for senate.
What is Howie's stand on medical marijuana vs the Libertarian platform?
Awesome videos Ryan! Again I will poke fun at Rounds and his insincere smile talking about medical cannabis being a "biological agent" what a tool. Many have said they don't agree with Ryan's tactics but he does really put himself out there and that needs to be respected. For those that like a softer more family focused approach to legalization in SD come join us at South Dakota Family Coalition for Compassion. We like to tell people watch out the girls are here and we are coming in HOT! Our all female board and admin team consists of several well known women advocates that have been trailblazers, medical refugees, patients and moms...whew let me tell you we have some fierce moms on board. We also work in conjunction with the national groups Marijuana Policy Project, Veterans for Compassionate Care, CBD 4 Epilepsy Children, Offer Hope for Landon and our local partner Jessie D from Legalize South Dakota. We have several events coming up including a Holiday Tea Party for the Ladies...see legalization can be classy & still be effective. We ask that no matter what advocacy group you support that you get out to vote! Tactics don't matter as long as it gets people talking and voting! Cannabis is a topic we should all be talking about. Voting is every US citizens responsibility!
Gordon Howie supports medical marijuana. I should have a video with him this week.
Senate race is a tossup. Gubernatorial . . . I'm voting Myers
Love or hate my tactics. I'm getting result Lynn. Sioux Falls will have. $91,000 worth of SDAP billboards starting Jan 15, 2015. We were endorsed by Sioux Falls Free Thinkers http://www.siouxf allsfreethinkers.com. When was the last time you saw a Cannabis Leaf surrounded by SD state outline? With POSITIVE MEDICAL CANNABIS MESSAGES?
http://Www.siouxfallsfreethinkers.com
Glad to have you working, Melissa. Get out and show all of your friends Mike Rounds's hogwash, and then get all of your friends to go vote now for someone other than Rounds!
Results in January? I'm glad someone's looking at the long game. Right now, Ryan, I'm hoping to see results on November 4. Spread those two videos, and go get all of your friends to vote!
Wednesday protest could use some blog level push. Please urge democrats to participate. I met with Zach Craigo today about our ANTI DD AND MMR PROTEST AT KELOLAND NEWS STUDIO IN SIOUX FALLS. Emmett Reistroffer believes I will stand alone on the corner that nite. I'd love to prove him wrong. . . Again. . . ;)
Date Oct 22nd Time 6pm. Location. . . Phillips ave Sioux falls outside of keloland news. Bring your own sign and come make some NOISE!!!
Will you also be canvassing before the event? Will you be handing out ballot information and giving people directions to polling stations where they can go vote the next day?
And for visibility, might you want to do the protest the night of the Rounds debate, when it's possible some other press may cruise by, since there's more national interest in the Senate race than the gubernatorial race?
I have a prior comittment with my lady for thursday nite. But we will be educating people about where to go to vote early. Plus I have no base in Vermillion. . . Sioux Falls I've got 800+ people signed uo on SDAP. . . Might get 20 out there. . . Maybe more. But I'd rather not quote protest attendance early like Cody Gardner did in Huron. He and I parted ways and I haven't heard from him since early Sept.
"Tactics don't matter as long as it gets people talking and voting! Cannabis is a topic we should all be talking about."
You have to be kidding! While I'm open to the idea for funding legitimate research and not big pharma (which I'm not a big fan of coming from a natural foods,macrobiotic background) for the benefits of medical cannabis the majority of people here in South Dakota I see really pushing this are stereotypical potheads. Those stereotypical potheads are simply using the legalization of medical as a vehicle for them getting legal access for recreational pot.
I've heard and read all kinds of statements that smoking a little weed does not impair judgment or motor skills and for those that have their tolerance built up that may be true but remember Kevin Ward Jr. who racing at a dirt track in NY with Tony Stewart and was killed after walking in front of Stewart's car while high during a race!
I could list all the car accidents as a result of being impaired chemically from the influence of pot, alcohol or a combination of the two.
Have you had much experience being around people whether family, friends or co-workers who have dealt with chemical dependency? I am not an enabler nor will I be! This could definitely be a lengthy discussion alone and it's interesting how proponents say weed is a great substitute for alcohol. Addiction is addiction and with long term use there are negative consequences physically and mentally.
Besides a another major concern are kids learning coping skills in life being chemical free in dealing with life. What signals are we sending these kids?
I have already voted but had I known I would of reconsidered who I would of voted for. Potheads do not represent me.
I have shared on this blog before a glimpse of being stuck with deadweight potheads at work that were so stoned they just sat there useless the rest of the shift gazing with their bloodshot eyes while I had not choice but to cover for them on a shift since it was just the two of us working though I promptly reported his rear end on Monday. It's happened to a lesser degree elsewhere.
Years ago I lived in a community that was like a microcosm of the San Francisco Bay area which was a really cool community but as an example one night with friends we would all have a big gathering and have a potluck of some really healthy and tasty organic foods. After the meal a group then spread out a buffet of weed, hash and other drugs going pretty hard core. I just went outside, sat on the on the steps of the house alone enjoying the clean air not partaking in the 2nd buffet and thought what a contradiction having this great healthy food and then doing this to their bodies and what am I doing here? lol
I've seen friends a few with small children that were so bright just hang out in their yurts up in the mountains spending a good part of the day being high on weed and not accomplishing much. Some were trustafarians, trust fund kids and some were not. What a waste!
Ryan, how about during the October 29 KELO Senate debate?
And wait a minute: no base in Vermillion, home of 10,000 or so university students?
I agree with Lynn's critique, that tactics do matter. We want results, but we also want integrity. We want to get people talking and voting, but we also want to be honest and get people talking and voting in the right direction.
Before Ryan, Tanya Nelson and another showed up to hijack the Stace Nelson/Rick Weiland presser I was even more open and sympathetic to the legalization of medical cannabis but after the hijacking of that presser, Ryan Gaddy's initial nonsensical comments here on Madville, participating and supporting a staged and bizarre graffiti Bosworth presser to advance SDAP's attempt at legalization it really turned me off and brought back memories of the morons and bright people I had known that have just made really bad choices and have really hampered their potential. Addicts will do anything to get their fix and some are just plain lazy.
I have friends that could share growing up in severe chemical abuse families that also involved physical abuse and some sexual abuse that could really enlighten others about the claim of "weed is a harmless herb that is good for you!"
What reinforced my opposition was checking just who were commenting and supporting these SDAP and other legalization websites being kids some being minors despite filters, some in their 20's and 30's and others older that seem to have a few things in common. Dead end low wage jobs just looking to feel good and get high with no ambition to better themselves. It's not just at those sites check places like Keloland whenever legalization is mentioned and check out who is making the comments. They fit the stereotype and the bad experiences with potheads I've had perfectly!
As long as people like Ryan Gaddy promote this I'll be against it and will do what I can to share my experiences and use research to back it up. If Democratic candidates support this I'll switch my registration to Independent and seriously consider voting for a different candidate.
Tara if I switch to register as an Independent don't even think of speaking on my behalf! You don't represent me! lol
You guys are a tough crowd! First of all let me properly introduce myself. I am a married (18 years) mom of 3, small business owner, animal rights advocate and up until July of 2012 a Health Care Worker with 20 years experience. My life changed in July of 2012 when an accident with a patient left me with a torn labrum & bicep in my L shoulder, Tear in my tendon in my hip, 1 massive herniated disc...after surgery I went back to work and within 2 weeks developed RSD in my L arm. If you don't know what RSD is, I suggest you Google it. It is the MOST painful condition on the McGill Pain Scale. Sounds fun right? Yeah now take that diagnosis and add in severe opiate intolerance and you have a recipe for disaster.
I spent months researching possible treatments after my diagnosis and found that cannabis has the ability to take away neuropathic pain & muscle spasms. I was intruiged and did more reading and was excited that there may be a way to control this horrible disease, a way to slow it's spread and maybe give me my life back. Except because of my zip code I was unable to try it without putting myself in a situation where I could go to jail, lose my children and lose my license to practice in SD. I was stuck. I then started looking at ways to get involved in changing the laws in SD, I found Ryan. We worked together briefly before I had to move on and do something that was more me, more medical, more family and more serious. I want SD voters to support legalization. I will not disparage another group for their tactics it does get people talking and while the impression SDAP may make isn't the best at times, they did help me make a choice to change the face/methods of legalization in SD. While people may still judge an have negative things to say regarding legalization in SD, it needs to happen. Our patients and families need to know going forward they have a home in SD where they have safe legal access.
Lynn, I have read and agreed with many of your comments. Your position on medical marijuana surprises me. Typically I have not seen you rely on stereotypical thinking, yet you openly state that is what drives your opposition to medical marijuana, which necessarily means you causally throw people like Melissa under the bus.
It would seem you could distinguish between medical marijuana and recreational marijuana, but your reliance on stereotyping appears to blind you to the difference. And to the extent that some folks believe that legalizing medical marijuana might lead to legalizing recreational marijuana, I find it troublesome that you think it a bad thing that recreational users would like to be acting lawfully rather than unlawfully.
Lynn, Gaddy only runs SDAP. All but one of the admins on Legalize South Dakota suffer from diseases/conditions that can be successfully treated with medical marijuana. I'm only 23 and my life has been taken away by endometriosis, interstitial cystitis, and a currently unknown neurological condition. I don't look sick most days, but my family and friends can tell you all about the times I've laid crying on the floor or in my bed not being able to move because of the pain that riddles my body. Please stop judging people before you know the truth. We're not all just a bunch of stoners who want to get high. We are people who want our lives back. For myself and many others, medical marijuana is our last hope.
BCB, I'm going off of life experiences and have shared just a little. Please take the time and read what I have written above.
When I go to Ryan Gaddy's youtube channel and see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7dT6MfckIg&list=UUvJEz-lPhrjG7EYuXz8SrcQ where I see intended for tobacco use only I think to myself yeah sure it couldn't be used and promoted for rec use right? lol
Ryan boasts a 90k in billboard buys? Come on! I highly doubt that as much as the claim for the 150 member pot protest parade in which 10 actually showed up. Almost 20 years ago I purchased 2 billboards for my business one being one of the highest traveled streets in South Dakota and it was maybe $2-3K for a 3 month run each. I'd have to dig up an old invoice but they can't go up that much especially with competition from other media sources these days.
Lynn, the language you used in your comment was "check out who is making the comments. They fit the stereotype and the bad experiences with potheads I've had perfectly!"
"They fit the stereotype" seems to say that you have a "stereotype" that you measure others against. When you think about all of the testimony by Melissa, Jessie and others who have been helped by medical marijuana, why not make them the "stereotype" and then argue the people you find distasteful from your "life experiences" don't fit the stereotype? Indeed the "life experiences" of people like Melissa and Jessie weigh heavily in my mind when considering legalization of medical marijuana. Seven wonderful examples can be found by searching for "7 Marvelous Medical Marijuana Miracles." I tried posting the link, but the site thought it was spam.
Just because you find some advocates of medical marijuana offensive, should you dismiss the "life experiences" of real sick individuals who have actually been helped? Indeed, other reports show that medical marijuana not only relieves symptoms, it has saved many lives:
http://www.newsweek.com/states-medical-marijuana-painkiller-deaths-drop-25-266577
Let's approach this from a different angle in talking about methods or tactics. Just think of the occupations out there that people don't look very highly on based on either bad experiences, word of mouth or stereotypes. How about car salespeople, insurance salespeople, or real estate agents. Either way what reinforces a stereotype is someone in a profession such as these that is always looking for the easy sale and will say anything to make that sale without ever listening to the customer's concerns. Then this shady person vanishes or avoids you when you have a problem or something turns out contrary to what was promised.
Now think of potheads or stoners vs medical cannabis consultants if that sounds better.
Look back at legalization threads for what Bill (The Blindman) posted. He had what I felt were the best way to help educate the public on the benefits of medical canbabis. It will cost some money to get set up, image, presentation, professionalism and discipline are key and it will require some hard work but it would go much farther in winning support, eliminate fear and help craft legislation. The staff that would work the state fair or other events like this would be come across as Medical Cannabis Consultants.
Then you have a group that shows up to pressers dealing with very important topics with candidates that would actually help your cause but instead you hijack the presser, The press focuses on the hijacking and not on the orginal intent of the presser and the political opposition exploits the hijacking also in which it ticks off people that could be allies. I've already mentioned the bizarre graffitti Bosworth presser above,
Next you have a pot protest parade in which it is claimed to have 150 protesters, 10 show up, one in dredlocks with the group sending out vibes of Woodstock. These people come across as potheads! They come across as free spirit kids just looking to have a good time and with legalization of med pot they can claim they have a headache, get a script, hang out in mom's basement and play video games.
What perception do you feel will gain more traction for legalization? Medical Cannibis Consultant using the methods Bill has long suggested or taking the easy route using guerrilla marketing tactics and bt Potheads?
You will always have people stereotype an issue because they don't like a person because of one thing or another. Ryan Gaddy does not fit into the SD conservative culture and that's why many people are leery of him. I appreciate the diversity, honesty, eccentricity and passion he brings to SD. He is a tail blazer and can reach a class of people that very few can. Thanks Ryan for being yourself.
Will see how many people come out to protest against Mike Rounds Thurs. Night? Remember the National media will be there.
How'd that Mike Myers presser turn out yesterday?
BCB,
Sorry I am out of town at a public library and it is very difficult to post. I am not dismissing Jessie, Melissa and other's benefit from Medical Cannabis. As mentioned earlier I have a background in the natural foods industry and macorbiotics where they used food as medicine and there are a number of things our ancestors used from various cultures that have been used to heal but one must be very careful due to big pharma written govt regulations and financed studies that work against natural remedies that cannot be patented by these companies.
Bill shared with me various ways componants of medical cannibis can help various ailments and I was immediately thinking of family members who suffer chronic pain where convnetional medicine has failed to help.
My main concern is when I see those who use easy non professional, crude, rude guerilla tactics I do not trust them and see them manipulating and using real legitimate medical cannabis needs for their own legal recreational access. I have personally had a number of bad experiences with rec users that some were addicts and others were irresponsible deadbeats to work with at a few places of work.
Sanford and Avera own the media, that's why the media avoids Myers like he has Ebola. Thank God my home town of Mobridge still owns their hospital or my friend Katie Zerr would have gotten fired over her editorial. It's amazing how many papers won't print Myer's position on Health Care. Very sad what this state has come to.
Lynn, Legalize South Dakota and the South Dakota Family Coalition both work in the way you are saying is the way to go. We post facts, success stories, medical studies and much more. Maybe you should check them out? The legalization effort on our end is not a joke. It's not about stoners getting high and both pages are run by REAL patients. It makes me very upset to know that people have turned away from legalizing medicinal marijuana, or think it's a joke, because of Gaddys/SDAPs approach to the subject. Give some credit to those of who are working in the ways you see as appropriate.
BCB, I think I get what Lynn is talking about. If I may presume to play moderator for a minute,
I think that most of her remarks are being made in the context of political expediency, and she's questioning whether or not certain folks advocating for the legalization of pot could actually do more political harm than good.
Advocating for medical marijuana is perhaps best done by medical professionals and their patients who have benefitted from its use, and at any rate, should perhaps avoid any appearance of casual recreational use advocates disingenuously using people who are suffering as poster children to achieve their distinctly different ends.
If people want to lobby for legalization because the substance is harmless and fun, they should be up front about it, and not try to ride suffering people's and their doc's coat tails.
I could be wrong about Lynn's position, and if so, it is perhaps because I am projecting my own onto hers. I think marijuana should be legal because it's not worth ruining people's lives over, via our legal system.
The "war on drugs" has turned good citizens into "the enemy" and as a consequence has ruined far more lives for far longer than the chemicals themselves would have.
And yes, in addition, it been the cause far more suffering than it has relieved even as it has turned it's back on people who can find relief from suffering in no other way.
But for the time being, medicinal use is most likely the best political inroad to legalization and is arguably best advocated by the people who need the drug for medical purposes, and by medical professionals who will vouch for the science and the substance's exclusive medical efficacy.
Lynn, let me know if I'm reading you right. And thanks for tolerating my brief self-insinuation.
Jessie I've said this along time ago that Gaddy's tactics are more of a liability to the cause than a benefit and it has certainly raised red flags for me seeing the kids that support him. Bill said Gaddy basically set his and other's efforts back a decade after the 1st presser he hijacked and coming on to Madville posting incomplete sentences, a word to two words and everyone is wondering what is up with this guy. It's not just him it's the others that follow and support him. Tara sits there and praises his tactics but thise same type of tactics have driven support from the Myers campaign. That campaign dead on arrival anyways and should just endorse Wismer anyways.
Jessie let me stress this! When I see these people during this election cycle acting this way, the pot protest parade in Huron, the comments in KELO that are just kids just looking for rec use and standing on street corners with signs I think these potheads are using you and the others who have legitimate needs to gain legal access. The laws need to be carefully written so they are not abused. Too bad you can't have them step aside. Meanwhile they continue their minimal effort antics and the red flags go up among the general public.
Bill thank you! You have it! Typing and posting on this library computer away from home is difficult.
http://books.google.com/books?id=dOAxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA216&dq=south+dakota+penitentiary+hemp+manufacturing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XcNGVM7RNcPlsASi_4LYCg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=south%20dakota%20penitentiary%20hemp%20manufacturing&f=false
What do you suppose the inmates used the extra hemp for in 1893?
Your comments sound pretty conservative Lynn. This isn't about Ryan, this is about the ISSUE, medical marijuana.
tara- haven't looked lately cause fighting pro-pot is a loser on gutter levels, but the nations best science isn't too thrilled about it. try NIHI-
" A past evaluation by several Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and National Institute for Drug Abuse (NIDA), concluded that no sound scientific studies supported medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data supported the safety or efficacy of marijuana for general medical use."
Lynn, as always I appreciate your thoughtful comments. And Bill, thanks for your mediation efforts. What I am now hearing is that Lynn does not oppose legalizing medical marijuana, but worries that other advocates' approach might weaken the effort rather than strengthen it. Sort of like Sibby's objections to Rounds - if Sibby objects, then the objection must be bogus and any rational person should vote for Rounds.
In any event, the medical marijuana issue is completely different than the recreational marijuana issue, and given the potential benefits to pain sufferers, Parkinson victims, children with seizure issues, etc, etc, etc, it is a sad shame if a person's objections to recreational marijuana causes him or her to object to legalizing medical marijuana.
Like Bill, I agree that it is a mistake to outlaw recreational marijuana, but the medical marijuana issue is as different from recreational marijuana as hemp. Leftover hemp will not get you high. The substances in medical marijuana can stop or reduce cancer tumors and can provide relief from a variety of serious illnesses without getting anyone high. See e.g.
http://www.wired.com/2012/07/marijuana-high-arthritis/
Thus, there seems to be no rational reason for people who object to other people ingesting marijuana to get high to oppose the legalization of medical marijuana for people sufffering from severe illnesses.
"Medical marijuana" is mostly an excuse by some people to legalize pot smoking because they want to smoke pot.
If my good friend Bob had a sack that was half full he'd admit he just wants to smoke pot but instead he hides behind his "help sick people" facade. Bob, admit you want to smoke pot. Everybody knows you smoke pot. Just come out and say so.
Otherwise, we'll have this discussion again at hempfest in Piedmont.
http://interested-party.blogspot.com/2014/05/jackley-cannabis-is-illegal-because-big.html
Bill (The Blindman) really helped provide me with some great information regarding medical marijuana though I cannot support the efforts as long as Ryan Gaddy, SDAP and their followers are involved. I feel they are just hijacking the effort for recreational use just as they hijack pressers to advance their cause. I don't trust them and they have zero credibility.
Sorry Tara but your credibility in my mind is the same as Bosworth, Haber, Stranahan and SDAP being zero and that has refected on the woefully failed Myers campaign.
I'm definately for industrialized Hemp since I have an interest in all the incredible the applications and potential it has including bio-diesel but would be concerned about the environmental impact with growing it.
Legalized recreational marijuana use I cannot support based on my own personal experiences, negative observations and research.
Bill (The Blindman) really helped provide me with some great information regarding medical marijuana though I cannot support the efforts as long as Ryan Gaddy, SDAP and their followers are involved. I feel they are just hijacking the effort for recreational use just as they hijack pressers to advance their cause. I don't trust them and they have zero credibility.
Sorry Tara but your credibility in my mind is the same as Bosworth, Haber, Stranahan and SDAP being zero and that has reflected on the woefully failed Myers campaign.
I'm definately for industrialized Hemp since I have an interest in all the incredible the applications and potential it has including bio-diesel but would be concerned about the environmental impact with growing it.
Legalized recreational marijuana use I cannot support based on my own personal experiences, negative observations and research.
Grudz, have you stopped smoking those banana peels yet buddy? That's really hard on your tooth. Plus, when are you gonna come clean about that nutmeg and those morning glory seeds?
Mr. Fleming, it may have gotten lost in your hooka addled brain but you know I favor plantain skins and drink my chaco only while reclining in hammocks made in the USA.
Mr. kurtz, we're finding out what drives your machine. You have an extra 30 seconds to respond, if you like to use it. I will allow that. Or you can blow it again, like Ms. Robinson did.
blow it out uranus, grud.
http://decorumforum.blogspot.com/2010/12/pupu-revisited.html
Lynn, you have a right to support or not support anybody you want. Best of luck to you.
I'm not going away. Lynn obviously doesn't really care about sick people. You would think someone who knows the truth about cannabis would vote regardless of who was stirring up the people to vote. . . *smh*
And like Melissa and Jessie. . . I'd qualify as a patient if I lived somewhere else. Ill tell you why. . . I was forced to medicate with lithium, seroquel, geodon, trazodone, and hydroxozine by my doctors in Yankton. Yes. . . I'm talking about Bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and schizo-effective disorder. I ditched the big pharma In 2007. 7 years later, I hold a job, sometime two. . . I don't sleep 18 hours a day. The drugs were killing me. Drugs from my doctor. I found cannabis was a relief to symptoms and know firsthand what the difference is. So now let the GADDY IS A POTHEAD MAYLAY ENSUE. . . I told you my story that I have chosen to leave out of public view. , I have many suicide attempts, I almost suceeded once. Since 2007. . . My dark thoughts have been more manageable and I have been self harm free for now 7 years. I am at peace with who I am now vs who the big pharma drugs made me become.
Ask my family if cannabis saved my life. . .
There seems to be three aspects of marijuana:
1. Legalization of marijuana for medical purposes (physical or psychological.)
2. Legalization of marijuana for recreational/entertainment purposes.
3. The gray area, is when the medical purposes overlap the recreational purposes. This is not only true for marijuana, but also other currently illegal and legal drugs. It is that gray area that causes the problem.
When advocates for legalizing MJ for recreational purposes use the argument about medical uses, that makes it fuzzy. If advocates for legalizing MJ for recreational purposes would just say "legalize MJ because we want to be legal to consume" or "legalize it because we enjoy/like consuming MJ," that would be a more upfront and honest argument which would put it under aspect number 2.
I can understand Lynn's perspective because I have seen the ugliness of consuming drugs, and have been a victim of alcohol users. Yet at the same time, I understand chronic pain and know the side effects of legal pain reducers.
A long comment that I shall close by saying that until will we deal with the gray area in a more upfront, honest and productive way, the heated debates will continue and the progress will be very slow.
grudz-continual sexual innuendo is demeaning to women as you clearly intend.
Lynn, before making such harsh criticism and gossiping about people who you don't even know, I would advise you to stop the slander. Hurt people hurt people Lynn. Maybe you need to take a look in the mirror.
Let's not throw that word "slander" around lightly, Tara. Lynn is pretty consistent in backing up what she says with facts and personal experience.
Slander, making false and damaging statements to a person's reputation. I just wish Lynn would stick to the issues. I don't think it is appropriate to degrade people when you don't even know them. What is your full name Lynn. It just isn't respectful. Thanks.
Lynn is doing quite well sticking to the issues.
Tara
I have been consistant expressing my opinion starting out tactfully and then more aggresive. Let's just agree that we have a completely different approach and method to dealing with issues. Sound good?
JeniW
Spot on and Thank you! Dealing with that grey area is vital in creating legislation while being realistic that there will be some abuse but it can be written in a way to minimize it and hold those practitioners accountable like any drug presribed. Last week I met with a COO of a rural income based health system and he shared with me just how bad the situation across South Dakota is in addicts driving hundreds of miles and finding a physician that will write them scripts not knowing they were abusing their meds. That Health Care System is watching what is happening and trying to stay on top of it. I was totally unwaware just how big of a problem this was in South Dakota.
Besides mentioned above I've seen where these MJ addicts cover for each other in positions of management, affected their performance, covering for each other's incompetence with one being fired for dealing on the job and the incompetence in an industry well known for it. I didn't report him. He dug his own hole. This was just a part time gig for me.
All you have to do is step into a HS classroom and talk to the students. They will tell you marijuana is everywhere. I grew up in the 70's and marijuana was everywhere. My classmates would smoke weed during lunch hour and we they would come back into the
Messed up my post, continuing on, the school hallway would reek of weed. The difference between the 70's and now are the laws. Marijuana isn't the problem, it the laws that destroy a young person's life. They lose college scholarships. There parents are so stressed out because cops look at snap chat, fb, phones, etc. So what we should be more concerned about are all the prescription drug overdoses and the large percentage of kids that are taking these drugs so big pharma can cash out.
Prohibition will not keep children from smoking it. Maybe schools should let students express themselves and talk about these issues instead of taking stupid common core classes. When I use to sub, I would ask how many of you kids smoke pot or have tried it. Most of the hands would raise. I think the solutions would be better dealt with among are young people, not the people who financially benefit from it.
Tara I'm not some Country Bumpkin that was home schooled and lived a protected environment never leaving the state. I've seen and expereienced more than some and less than others.
My uncle who is like an older brother came back from Vietnam and along with may aunt who was like an older sister let me know if I ever wanted to experience various drugs when I was really young to let them know. They wanted to be there or give advice. LSD was really popular then for example. I had access to things way before kids my age back then so by the time they were experimenting or going to keggers it was no big deal to me. I didn't feel the need need to impress them.
My first first day in college a professor told us how coming out of high school kids tend to feel they know just about everything but once you start the path of higher education with the more you learn the more you realize just how dumb you are. Those were not his exact words but you get the idea but what he said always stuck with me. I still have an open mind and am willing to listen, learn and change my mind till I'm 6 feet under I guess.
I post without correcting my typos. Need to preview and correct my mistakes before I post. Sorry.
Whats the fuss, grow your own in a closet or out on the north 40. So what if they catch you treating yourself medically. Stand in front of your jury of peers and show them the result of you not being a drug kingpin, but just a poor consumer trying to live your life as best you can. Remember, some of those drug dealers at Walgreen's and other big pharma, only want you to take stuff that is poison to some of your systems, go organic.
If they catch you, run for office and keep running for office. In South Dakota, that makes you immune to prosecution.
I went to some parties in HS wear they were dropping acid, LSD, smoking pot and getting drunk. Keggers were a weekend happening in Mobridge. The first time I drank was my Jr. Prom. All the school administrators and chaperones knew we were drinking, but we didn't get busted. Are parents handled it.
One thing we could all easily agree on is Big Pharma Bad! They manipulate our system in so many ways and it's all about profits. Consumers suffer and are not able to utilize the options that could best serve them or they make it very difficult to access.
I would be willing to bet a couple of bucks that in Colorado Washington, along with all states that have initiated medical marijuana we will see a decline in healthcare costs in the coming years. That is the deep fear the big pharma has. Ignorance is the best treatment plan in the world for big pharma and their pushing of some of the expensive medications that consumers would be better served by having accessibility to medical marijuana.
Jerry look at the side affects of some of these drugs rolled out by big pharma without proper testing.
We were interviewed by kelo am. :)
http://kelo.com/news/articles/2014/oct/23/medical-marijuana-supporters-gather-ahead-of-gubernatorial-debate/
Every drug has side effects, including the caffeine that is in coffee and most soft drinks.
Some of the side effects of caffeine are desirable because caffeine is a stimulant. It helps wakes us up, or keep us awake, gives a temporary boost of energy, and helps make us feel good.
The other side effects are not desirable, such as being hard on the stomach and gut, makes our hands tremble, and for many makes it harder to sleep, and for some very rapid and dangerous heart rate.
That aside, it seems that the discussion has slipped into that gray area that I referred to earlier.
MJ for medical purposes is not the same as MJ and other drugs for recreational purposes.