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Republicans Play Word Games to Dismiss Opponents and Avoid Discussion

In small potatoes, Pat Powers farmer-blows his nose on my analysis of the real reasons South Dakota Democrats lost this week and summarizes the Republican effort to brand Democrats in one telling sentence:

I had to chuckle this noon hour as Cory Heidelberger lifted his head from crying in his GMO free corn flakes to offer a sniveling retort to the reality of election 2014, known by Democrats as “Ragnarok” [Pat Powers, "Retort to My Analysis of the Races Forgets a Couple of Things," Dakota War College, 2014.11.07].

GMO-free corn flakes. The proper, immediate, and sufficient response to any comment about my diet is what's it to ya?

I'm going to run down this rabbit hole, because I think Pat makes an important point here about how South Dakota Republicans operate. For the record:

  1. Pat Powers has never had breakfast with me.
  2. I have not eaten corn flakes for months.
  3. Both of the cereals I ate yesterday came from Wal-mart.
  4. I ate a big cheeseburger and onion rings for supper yesterday.
  5. I have never checked any of my breakfasts, lunches, or suppers for GMO content.
  6. Whether one bothers to check one's food for GMOs is as much someone else's business as your choice of boxers, briefs, or commando.
  7. Whether one eschews GMOs tells us nothing about a person's ability to intelligently analyze and comment on South Dakota politics.

Without any evidence or basis in knowledge or fact, Republican Pat is ascribing to Democrat me a food-protest elitism that he and his ilk like to think of as effete and risible. Pat doesn't want you to look at what I'm actually saying about the issue at hand. He wants to hang a fabricated label on me, make it mean what he wants, and use that double falsehood to dismiss my arguments without reading them.

I hear an echo here of how certain opponents attack President Barack Obama by calling him a Muslim. Never mind that public facts demonstrate that President Obama is at least as Christian as anyone in South Dakota. Never mind that there's nothing inherently wrong with being Muslim. People who hate the President grab a label—Muslim—invest that label with a negative connotation, and then hang it on the President to dismiss him, contrary to fact, without looking at what the President really says and does religiously, not to mention politically.

Now zoom out to how South Dakota Republicans use Obama and liberal against South Dakota Democrats. Republicans, even those of often good conscience, hung the Obama label on Democrats (even Dems running for Legislature, where President Obama's policies are far less relevant) and told South Dakotans, "Don't vote for Obama!" GOP vilification of the President was so damning that Democrats themselves ran away from a President with a steady job restoration record and a big basket of other great policy achievements.

Likewise liberal. I can't even tell (and I'll bet most South Dakotans can't either) what liberal means in the contemporary political vernacular. Is it handing out government money? Is it increasing government control? Is it running a budget deficit? Is it simply passing new laws instead of sticking with the status quo? But the South Dakota Republicans who do all of those things plow forth unabashed, shouting Liberal! at South Dakota Democrats, who run for their lives from a word turned meaning-free insult.

Never mind what I eat. I'm a liberal. I believe in maximizing liberty for every citizen. I believe in using the power we have as a community to solve problems.

And I believe in using words to educate and enlighten citizens, not to insult others and avoid unpleasant truths.

72 Comments

  1. mike from iowa 2014.11.08

    Conservatives(I just threw up in my mouth) gave liberal taxcuts to the koch bros who pay conservative sums of taxes and spend liberally to buy mopre pols and elections.

  2. Roger Cornelius 2014.11.08

    On related threads about the election results I made some similar observations about President Obama. First, Democratic politicians running for office betrayed our leader and our President. Rather than boldly standing up for his economic policies and a clear record of social reform they allowed Republicans to label him as the devil.
    Another observation was that, as Cory stated about liberals, low information Republican voters let their party use those and other labels to define Democrats. Aside from the socialist theme, they include communist, fascism, radicals, etc. It is evident that these low information voters don't know the definition of any of these words, let alone how they apply to our political system.
    The GOP keeps their low information voters in line with social issues as well, such as abortion, gay marriage, immigration, Ebola and ISIS. The fear factor has been successfully planted with their base.
    There has been a lot of blame tossed around about the poor election results and the solutions that we must come to rebuild our party.
    The old adage "all politics is local" and is a good place to start, Republicans at the state level made President Obama an issue and rather than embrace him they ran from him. Why? Because Democrats believed Republicans?
    There is often a need to separate a candidate from the president, this wasn't the year to do that. Democrats had the opportunity to embrace the president with the unvarnished truth about his record and failed to do, and as a result failed at the polls.
    What do Democrats do, we first embrace our president and the president needs to double down on every issue that Democrats hold dear.
    The president will be the target for the most vicious attacks on his character and policies in the next two years, will we accept what Republicans say and do or will we stand up and act like Democrats?

  3. Tim 2014.11.08

    Once they really get started with the wingnuttery after January, they may give us all we need to apply our own labels. Funny thing is, we point out the truth and get castrated, they make up flat out lies and all is ok. We need to find a way to fight that.

  4. Taunia 2014.11.08

    Weiland, the person and the campaign, has "got it". Lick your wounds, regroup, blame whatever, but keep Weiland in fighting form.

    He's an even bigger threat to Repubs after this year. Get Wismer to run again. Dump Robinson.

  5. mike from iowa 2014.11.08

    PNR Misc. is feverishly ranting out of his gourd,as per usual. South Dakota nutjobs needs much more reality-based reality and less Fauxknee Non-Sense.

  6. Rich 2014.11.08

    I enjoy it when PP blogs about you. It means you get under his skin. :)

  7. bearcreekbat 2014.11.08

    Dictionary.com defines "liberal" as follows:

    "1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

    2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

    3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

    4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

    5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

    6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

    7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

    8. open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

    9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

    10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.

    11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.

    12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.

    13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.

    noun

    14. a person of liberal principles or views, especially in politics or religion.

    15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, especially of the Liberal party in Great Britain."

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal

    Given that definition, it would seem that being called a "liberal" by anyone is a compliment, not an insult.

  8. leslie 2014.11.08

    tim-sage advice.

    repubs want things to quiet down.

  9. larry kurtz 2014.11.08

    Cory, when you swim in a cesspool expect to get the stink on you: just stay out of there. Rebumblicans are earth haters: it's just that simple.

    Democrats that talked about cannabis and embraced President Obama won but the losers mostly ran as earth haters-lite.

  10. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    From Owen's link: "Maher said the Democrats were just horrible and 'treated Obama like a teenager treats his mother.'"

    Good point, Owen. Put me on the Dem stage in 2016, and I will make the case that President Obama's eight years saved this country from disaster.

  11. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    I'm with you, Roger. The other side offers labels, fear, and Joop Bollen. We offer the truth and darn good policies. Into the fire!

    Rich, I wish we weren't reduced to just getting under each other's skin. I wish Pat and I could just have an honest conversation, for the good of the Republic. My comment section is open, and if he wants to engage in conversation he's welcome. I'd welcome the same opportunity to engage him and his readers in his comment section. When we engage in real conversation, when we speak to each other freely, with our real names, it becomes harder to just label each other as "liberal", "wingnut", or "the enemy". When we speak with each other, the labels and fear fade, and we come closer to seeing each other as fellow free and equal citizens.

  12. Donald Pay 2014.11.08

    Yeah, for some reason the right likes to focus their Nazi-like contempt as they slam people about food. Bill Napoli once called me a long string of names at a crackerbarrel. What stuck in my mind was "a tree hugging, brown rice eating, save the whales radical" or some such thing. After he got done with his hissy fit, I kind of understood him a little better: he had a bad case of constipation from eating white rice.

    Righty kooks and Republican flunkies are always spouting off in the manner of Pat Powers about food. Is Pat also constipated with a bad case of irritable bowel syndrome from eating pesticide-laden white rice? That could explain a lot about his personality.

    It turned out that Hitler also was extremely focused on food due to very severe gastrointestinal problems throughout his life. There's something about being conservative and having fixations about food and both ends of the alimentary canal.

  13. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Tim, I say we fight it by calling out their lies every day. (Mission statement, Madville Times, 2005–ongoing!) Let's get seats at the State of the Union, and when some jerk yells, "You lie!" at the President, we'll shout back, "No, Rounds does!"

  14. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Mike, I may yet get to PNR. Note that he's always been willing to allow our comments on his website, and we have welcomed him to our forum. He's not as bad as the folks running his party.

    Bear, your discussion of the meaning of liberal could make the framework for an excellent speech. We need 105 Legislative candidates to make a speech like that in 2016.

  15. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Donald, throw in their continual use of the "shoved down our throats" to describe policies created by democratic votes, and the diagnosis of oral fixation seems all the more valid.

  16. WayneF 2014.11.08

    Pat Powers has probably never read or used the terms "effete" or "risible" in his life and has no clue what they mean.

  17. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    More of that elitist liberal vocabulary. Another ding on me. :-D

  18. mike from iowa 2014.11.08

    Yeah,well I bet PP masturbates!

  19. Bill Fleming 2014.11.08

    LOL, the food thing. Martin Luther was famous for always being constipated. Wrote much of his most passionate work on the can trying to take a dump and cursing the devil for his affliction.

  20. Taunia 2014.11.08

    Holy shyte.

  21. Les 2014.11.08

    You gotta have balls to get castrated, Tim.
    ~
    A note for all, "the power of the spoken word". It can lift you up or take you down. Votes and relationships do not build from down words.

  22. bearcreekbat 2014.11.08

    Great post Patrick - Thanks!

  23. grudznick 2014.11.08

    Mr. Pay, I love brown rice and eat it every lunch with gravy and a tangerine. I think you are so angry with Mr. Napoli because you spent too much time with him back in your days. Mr. Napoli is not in on the nuclear waste dump being built by Provo.

  24. jerry 2014.11.08

    Brilliant description of a what being a liberal really means and how easy it is to visualize that description. The alternative party's description of conservatism would also be very simple, just a fresh pile of steaming bullcrap.

  25. grudznick 2014.11.08

    Mr. H, if I ever get to the Twin Cities I would love to have breakfast with you at that Egg and I place where they serve some hearty fare. I do not know what GMO is but as long as it is a good breakfast food I am OK with it being on our table.

  26. Bill Fleming 2014.11.08

    You are a GMO, grudz.

  27. Rich 2014.11.08

    I miss eating at the Egg and I on South Lyndale. My friends and I dined there frequently when I lived in Minneapolis. I highly recommend it, grud.

    Cory, I agree it would be nice if PP and you could engage in lively discussion without PP resorting to childish behavior.

  28. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Rich, I'll talk to almost anyone. Might even have breakfast with 'em... although I have a hard time waiting to eat at some restaurant instead of just having a couple bowls of cereal right at my own table before heading out to face the world.

  29. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Mr. Duffy educates us all—JFK already gave BCB's speech over 50 years ago!

    "I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves."

    What a powerful humanist manifesto... from a good Boston Catholic!

  30. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.11.08

    There's an Egg and I in Rapid City?! Goooood food. Rich, I've eaten more often at the Egg on University and 280. Both are awfully tasty.

  31. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.08

    Grudz, e-mail me before you visit. I'll meet you.

  32. Richard Schriever 2014.11.08

    Well Corey, I gotta say, when it comes to voters, they will vote on issues, when the vote is on an issue (initiative or referenda). But when it comes to voting on candidates - they have no use for issues, and vote identity.

  33. joe lowe 2014.11.09

    Sorry the one above was the draft. It is late and I am tired. Good night

    Republicans are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts. The constant theme of the Republican candidates during the mid terms was the failed policies of this President. I think they actually believe this “trash take”. Mike Rounds was not real interested in speaking to the EB5 issue. He would constantly go back to how bad this Presidents policies are and Obamacare.
    Rolling Stone did a good article on the last 6 years of this president’s term. Here are some of the accomplishments of this President. They are as follows:
    1. October 2009 the unemployment rate was 10%. It is now 5.9%
    2. Consecutive private sector job growth: 55 months.
    3. Private sector jobs created 10.3 million.
    4. Federal deficit in 2009: 9.8 % of GDP. Deficit in 2014: 2.8% of GDP. Average under Reagan 4.2% of the GDP.
    5. Dow Jones closed, inauguration day 2009: 7,949. Dow Jones closed October 7th : 16,719.
    6. Adults gaining insurance under first year of Obamacare:10.3 million.
    7. Osama bin Laden is now dead.
    8. Pell grants funding 2008-2009 $18 billion. Pell grant funding 2013-2014; $33 billion.
    If these are the failures they speak about , then the Republicans need to look at the mess our country was in 2008.
    We need to be stop being nice to these folks when they “trash talk” and hold them accountable for the fabrications. I think the line from the movie ,Cool Hand Luke, best describes them. “What we have here is a failure to communicate and some men you just can't reach.

  34. Badger, Out! 2014.11.09

    Time to identify a horse's ass as being a horse's ass! The mentally challenged intellect, writing skills, ego, gutless character and lack of honor, courage and candor displayed in Pat Power's written dribble is a mirror image reflection of those he claims to represent.

    The word on the street says the smoke filled back rooms where PP hangs his hat has had an Old Guard Powering Mongering Motto on the wall for nearly 40-years that reads, "To Hell with Majority Rule and the Common Good - What the People Don't Know Cannot Hurt Us!"

    Grapevine has it that PP's dribble was incorporated into OGPM Protocols #1 thru #5.

    OGPM Protocol #1: "Tell the people to sit down and shut the hell up! If a rebel fails to comply, then unleash the attack dogs!"

    OGPM Protocol #2: "If a DEM or IND's intellect and facts cannot be rebutted, then attack - attack - attack the outcast's character with discombobulating fabricated propaganda and rotating flapping jaws spewing misleading partial truths, twisted facts and damnable bold faced lies - Do so enough times and the people will believe the lies!"

    OGPM Protocol #3: "Rehearse, refine and continuously project a nice-guy, front-pew, ethical image in public while privately being two-faced hypocrite."

    OGPM Protocol $#4: "Prey on the public' naïve trust."

    OGPM Protocol #5: "Do as I say, not as I do."

    So, how have the OGPM's secured and maintained their unchecked power, control and influence over all three branches of governance in South Dakota?

    Answer: A well oiled propaganda machine, cloaked secrecy and intimidating threats of reprisal!

    Who has enacted, amended and rescinded SDCL election statutes and Board of Election Regulations over the past 36-years?

    Answer: GOP controlled legislatures and GOP governors did so!

    In South Dakota, who has appointed judges over the past 36-years?

    Answer: Only GOP governors have.

    Is South Dakota's election process broken? Are official election results creditable? Are SDCL election statutes and Board of Election regulations laced with GOP partisan politics? Is South Dakota's judicial system "tilted to the right"?

    Answer: Yes!

    Does the Old Guard Power Mongering Machine's current base of power rest with the fact that over 70% of the 64 county auditor/finance officers in South Dakota are registered GOP voters?

    Answer: Yes!

    Have votes on test-deck sample ballots been included in Election Night results? Have precinct ballots been double-counted and included twice in Election Night results?

    Answer: Yes!

    In South Dakota, who submits ballot information to Election Systems & Software in Omaha, NE? After ES&S programs the ballots for each election; sends ballot proofs; and prepares test ballots; who processes the test-deck of sample ballots through the ballot-scanning machine prior to each election to test the accuracy of the vote-counting machine? Who's actions determine whether the test ballots or double counted ballots are included in the election night results?

    Answer: County auditor does it all!

    Does South Dakota have a non-partisan system of internal control checks and balances in place to protect the integrity of the election process and the validity of the results that holds all election officials accountable to the highest of honorable behavior standards?

    Answer: No!

    in South Dakota, prior to canvassing the results in a county, does an election statute or regulation require ES&S to analyze the county's ballot counting machine's Internal Audit Log report and provide independent findings to the canvassing board prior to the county auditor's unofficial results being declared to be official results by the canvassing board?

    Answer: No!

    In South Dakota within 22-days subsequent to any election did ES&S analysis of a county ballot scanner's Internal Audit Log report produce published independent finding documenting that 612 test-deck sample ballots and 460 ballots counted twice in a precinct were included in Election Night results and provided to the SD SOS (GOP) who had the documented findings in his possession for approximately 60-days prior to conducting a smoke and mirrors ballot counting task force investigation with the assistance of four count auditors (all GOP) to investigate the vote counting practices and procedures used by another county auditor (also GOP) with the fact that the votes on 1,072 non-cast ballots were included in the Election Night results (a 23.8% non-cast ballot-count injection) was never fully disclosed to the voters and with the same SD SOS and responsible auditor allowed to continue to oversee subsequent elections?

    Answer: Yes, it sure as hell happened just as described above!

    In any recent South Dakota election, after inconsistencies were identified to exist in the Election Night results, did the SD SOS (GOP) and State's Attorney suggest to the canvassing board that the Election Night results be rejected? Did the canvassing board (with a GOP quorum) toss out the Election Night results and direct the county auditor (GOP) to count all the ballots again twice? When a second and third count of the ballots did not produce the same results, did the canvassing board allow the auditor to calculate the official results using a spread sheet with the approved third-count results never publicly reconciled with the Election Night results prior to the canvassing board declaring the third-count results to be the official results?
    Answer: Yes, it sure as hell happened just as described above! What election statute or regulation authorized public officials to do so? None did!

    Are South Dakota's current Election Contest statutes and civil proceedings rules adequate to safeguard the integrity of the election process, the accuracy of the results, the creditability of election evidence and hold all election officials accountable for their actions?

    Answer: No!

    Final question, "Does absolute power corrupt absolutely?"

    Answer: Sure as hell as over the past 36-years and will do likewise over the next 2 to 4 years!

  35. JeniW 2014.11.09

    Badger, that was a very thought filled comment.

    All I can say is that there are enough people in SD who want it that way. They either do not see it that way, or do and are satisfied enough with it, or simply do not care.

    They are busy trying to survive from one day to the next, and trying to have some enjoyment, that they cannot think beyond what they need and want.

    Someone who is hungry is not going to care about the next performance of the symphony concert at that Pavilion.

    The question is how to we change it, and who will be the ones step up to the plate to try to change it?

  36. mike from iowa 2014.11.09

    Fiscal conservative Super Pac gives 24 million for just two races in iowa and Colorado. But,but,but Citizens United isn't going to allow unlimited amounts of cash to influence elections,said the spider to the fly.

    Big donations included a $2.5 million check to Kochs' Freedom Partners Action Fund—more than what the Koch bothers themselves gave to it—a "super" political action committee that spent $24 million to support Republicans including winners Joni Ernst in Iowa and Cory Gardner in Colorado. Super PACs were made possible by the Supreme Court's 2010 decision in Citizens United, which allows them to accept unlimited contributions from corporations and individuals as long as they don't coordinate directly with a campaign.

  37. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.09

    Richard, I agree that voters think differently when faced with policies and with people. The issues generally speak for themselves. Candidates have to lead conversations and lead people to vote. They have to overcome the easy default settings and get voters to think, "R or D, L or I, I'd follow that guy into Hell or Pierre."

  38. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.09

    On Badger's comment: I find Powers's use of Protocol #3 particularly galling. I find the overall description of the entrenched corruption of one-party rule daunting.

    And Mike, on all that Citizens United money, I'm afraid we won't get legal reform until we find enough Democratic donors willing to jump into the arms race and overwhelm the corporate-fascist donors.

  39. larry kurtz 2014.11.09

    "When PuPu the Former Blogger awakened, the first thing he did was stroke the belly of the life-sized George W. Bush inflatable doll he slept with. He’d been torn between the Bush 43 doll and the Ronnie Reagan doll, but he’d decided he preferred the frozen sneer of the “Mission Accomplished!” vinyl president to the vapid grin of the “I can’t remember” one."

  40. Tim 2014.11.09

    It takes very little effort in these days of the internet and mass information to prove every republican claim this election both here and nationally to be flat out lies in most cases. Yet the voters here and nationally didn't bother to look at the facts and voted as the attack ads directed them to. As long as the electorate continues to be so lazy they won't look a little at what and who is actually in their best interest, or worse, to damn lazy to get off their asses and go vote, then things won't change much. Just a little research and they would have known the super PAC's and most ads were BSing them and maybe they vote differently. Then again, they have that republican theme "those damn liberals" ingrained so deeply they might be beyond help. Not sure how much republican inflicted pain it will take to change that.

  41. Tim 2014.11.09

    Kansas is another great example, Brownback and his republican legislature has ground that states finances, credit-rating and anything they try to do into hamburger. But they all got re-elected, what makes people in these republican states vote like they do?

  42. larry kurtz 2014.11.09

    If Larry Pressler really had any integrity he'd rat out his deal with Wadhams, et al. to run in the Senate race.

  43. Tim 2014.11.09

    Larry, I'm not sure I buy into the theory that Pressler ran at republicans request, but it sure would be interesting to know his true motive.

  44. larry kurtz 2014.11.09

    More intriguing is how the Wadhams camp knew that a federal grand jury had convened to look into Bendagate.

  45. larry kurtz 2014.11.09

    The GOP scoured John Walsh's past for anything that would damn a Dem victory in Montana and they pulled a similar SD primary stunt in Idaho then blame us for dirty tricks or shitty candidates.

  46. Tim 2014.11.09

    That's the difference between how democrats and republicans run campaigns, they will lie, cheat and steal to win an election, we don't operate that way and they know it. The post about Daugaard encouraging the legislature to override the voters decision on IM18 is the beginning of this years wingnuttery, we need to make sure we pound them on that if they try.

  47. Les 2014.11.09

    I'd say a column on Badgers post would be interesting, Cory. It appears Tideman will be busy.

  48. Roger Elgersma 2014.11.09

    Joe Lowe and Roger Cornelius are very correct. Someone said recently at a democratic forum meeting that sometimes people can be stupid. Well, true but also sometimes people can be smart. The difference is not their position or wealth but the difference between smart people and stupid people is more often if they have correct information to base their decisions on.
    We need more facts and information in political adds and less spin. Spin just alienates peoples ears. Then they do not get as much information and they do not vote as well.
    We can go around the world promoting democracy, and then sabotage it here at home. For the sake of democracy we need to stick to the facts.

  49. mike from iowa 2014.11.09

    Roger E-as I said in another column,invite responses from everyone around the state to see how many repeat talking points word for word. Maybe then they can be educated as to the error of their ways.

  50. Flipper 2014.11.10

    I almost spit my latte into my GMO-free cereal Sunday morning when I read Mike Rounds telling that Sioux Falls newspaper that it was the Democrats shutting down Republicans in the Senate and that Republicans "really want the Senate to function." Mike Rounds, meet Ted Cruz.

  51. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.10

    (Help us out, Larry: the KDLT link takes us to the home page.)

  52. JeniW 2014.11.10

    Was what Larry was referring to is the story about Mike Rounds' interview with Meet the Press?

    The link does not to to the article. You have to scroll down to find the article.

  53. JeniW 2014.11.10

    The title of the KDLT article is "Sen. Elect Mike Rounds On "Meet The Press" Nov. 9"

  54. larry kurtz 2014.11.10

    "Rather than waiting for the U.S. government to fund a Missouri River water pipeline, its developers are seeking temporary loans from Iowa, Minnesota and South Dakota to keep it progressing.

    Eleven of the 20 towns and water systems along the Lewis and Clark Rural Water System are connected: 10 in South Dakota, one in Iowa and none in Minnesota.

    South Dakota earlier contributed $1 million toward engineering and design of the Madison connection. The Board of Water and Natural Resources on Thursday recommended another $12.5 million for three related projects.

    In Minnesota, lawmakers approved $22 million this year to connect Luverne and the Rock County Rural Water District.

    And Iowa leaders are putting together a proposal for the next legislative session of $25 million for the line to Sioux Center."

  55. Caitlin Collier 2014.11.10

    So, in a game of juvenile even-up, does that mean that I can suggest that after a morning session of internet porn, a couple of tall boy beers, and check of his we-are-afraid-of-black-men website favs, he wrote his last screed? Paints a picture does it not? I don't know Pat Powers or what he does with his mornings. Perhaps we would even share some interests in common, but I lack any respect for the silliness that he continues to pump out.

  56. Roger Cornelius 2014.11.10

    When I was attended Holy Rosary Indian Mission, now Red Cloud Indian School, some fifty years ago Father Edwards was the superintendent of the school and had many colorful phrases.
    What he would likely say about Pat Powers and the Dump Site is, "he has constipation of mind and diarrhea of the mouth".
    I don't read blogs where I'm blacklisted or blogs where I don't know the identity of the blogger.

  57. D Basel 2014.11.10

    I would have to point out to "Taunia" who wants to dump Robinson and keep Wismer and Weiland. Robinson appealed to more voters than either Wismer or Weiland. Wismer was not in tune with west river voters. Too soft on KXL and Powertech.

  58. leslie 2014.11.11

    badge-when did es&s do its over-count?

  59. leslie 2014.11.11

    flipper-wow. we need to take action

  60. leslie 2014.11.11

    mii's citation to 289 obama accomplishments on another thread provides 3xs as many republican talking points-this is their fierce brilliance ( i hate to say)

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