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AG Puts State on Alert for Sisseton Shooter; Cops Find Suspect Dead at Scene

Last updated on 2014.12.21

South Dakota law enforcement alarmed the state into a manhunt yesterday morning following a multiple shooting in Sisseton:

State and local Law Enforcement are searching for Colter Richard Arbach, 22, Sissteton, the subject in a quadruple homicide. The shooting incident occurred in a Sisseton residence early this morning. Four individuals are dead and one is critically injured. The names of the victims are not being released at this time.

Arbach is armed and dangerous and should not be approached. Anyone who has seen Arbach or knows of his whereabouts is asked to contact the Sisseton Police Department at 605-698-7667 [South Dakota Attorney General's office, press release #1, 2014.11.22, approx. 6 a.m.].

About three and a half hours later, law enforcement found their suspect... dead at the scene of the crime:

The Division of Criminal Investigation has located and identified Colter Richard Arbach, 22, Sisseton, as one of the deceased individuals at the scene of the shooting incident that occurred at a Sisseton residence early this morning. Preliminary investigation results identify Arbach as the shooter, before taking his own life. Investigators are continuing to locate other individuals who may have been at the scene at the time of the shooting for their involvement or their eyewitness account. Law Enforcement does not feel that the public is in danger at this time.

The investigation is still ongoing. Agencies assisting in this investigation are the Sisseton Police Department, Sisseton-Wahpeton Sioux Tribal Police, Roberts County Sheriff’s Office, South Dakota Highway Patrol, South Dakota Game, Fish and Parks and the Division of Criminal Investigation [South Dakota Attorney General's office, press release #2, 2014.11.22, tweeted 9:32 a.m.].

Before whipping the public into a panic, maybe law enforcement should check IDs on the bodies one more time. If investigators knew enough to peg Arbach as the shooter, if they had a description and a photo, then whoever they were talking to at the scene probably would have known enough to ID the perp at the scene.

Keep calm, and carry on.

54 Comments

  1. larry kurtz 2014.11.23

    Jackley is a corrupt partisan. Tribal nations trapped within South Dakota should secede and become counties in a 51st State.

  2. jerry 2014.11.23

    This is just another reason to question Benda's death in the EB-5 scandal. If there are not better crime or investigative plans in force in a multiple shooting, with the alleged shooter laying dead at the scene, how in the hell can the public be reassured that there is not a shooter or shooter at large for Benda's demise.

  3. Tim 2014.11.23

    Jerry, because our republican rulers say so. How dare you, me or anybody else question them.

  4. Loren 2014.11.23

    Geez, Jackley can relax a bit. The next gubernatorial election isn't for 4 yrs. He doesn't have to get his name out there every day just yet! Patience, son!

  5. 96Tears 2014.11.23

    Jackley imagines himself the top law enforcement voice in South Dakota. Once again, he's proven himself to be an incompetent hack attorney with his eyes on higher office. Luckily for him, he's in a state that rewards criminality by electing it to public office.

  6. Tim 2014.11.23

    Jackley imagines himself as the next Governor, hopefully we will be able to do something about that in 4 yrs.

  7. Bill Dithmer 2014.11.23

    Agencies assisting in this investigation are the Sisseton Police Department, Sisseton-Wahpeton Sioux Tribal Police, Roberts County Sheriff’s Office, South Dakota Highway Patrol, South Dakota Game, Fish and Parks and the Division of Criminal Investigation [South Dakota Attorney General's office, press release #2, 2014.11.22, tweeted 9:32 a.m.].

    Well theres your problem, to many investigators at the scene.

    Really, GF&Ps? Must have been an illegal bird cleaning operation at that address.

    I'm just curious, how many agencies where directly involved in Benda investigation, i dont remember and I'm to lazy to look. Last night it was Sisseton 4 Kansas City 1.

    The Blindman

  8. Roger Cornelius 2014.11.23

    Does the state have jurisdiction on the reservation and to what extent?
    The FBI wasn't listed on the agencies involved in the investigation

  9. Owen 2014.11.23

    I think you folks know that I'm not a Jackley fan and I'm not going to defend him here.
    However, what if this guy had shot himself in the head and they couldn't identify him visually and he had no ID on him? I think they errored on the side of caution. What if he would have been on the loose and the police hadn't let the public? There would be outrage as well.
    I'm just saying lets wait and hear the facts. If they knew who this guy was right away then somebody screwed up.

  10. jerry 2014.11.23

    It would seem to me that if there was a dead guy with a gun on site, I would be examining him first to see why he killed himself and who he was. He would be the point of interest as he would have been the most likely to have been the shooter as that is how these things seem to be playing out.

  11. Tim 2014.11.23

    Agree with Owen, besides, Jackley wouldn't dirty himself with matters on the reservation, republicans in this state have better things to do, as they have proven time and again.

  12. Les 2014.11.23

    I used to think the county sheriff was the most powerful law. The county Blindman. The gf&p can walk into your house for a possesion limit check and I don't believe he needs a warrant.

  13. Sam @ 2014.11.23

    Jackley more interested in being a hero than a team player.

    Shows he is not qualified to hold higher office

  14. Daniel Buresh 2014.11.23

    From the looks of info coming out of Sisseton, the kid was unrecognizable. Who knows where the weapon was or if there were more than one. Odd situation, but considering the first officers on scene will only analyze what they can see without destroying evidence and then they will wait for DCI to arrive and process the scene. They obviously felt they may have someone on the run, in which case GF&P has a lot of resources for aerial and thermal imaging in remote areas. Had they not warned the public and it wasn't until they id'd the bodies that they knew someone was running, you'd be crying that they waited 4 hours. Find something better to hate on. They were just doing their jobs.

  15. grudznick 2014.11.23

    Ha! Got your goat!

  16. larry kurtz 2014.11.23

    Hog farmer gets 159 comments, genocide gets 16: jesus.

  17. grudznick 2014.11.23

    In all fairness, Lar, most of those comments were yours.

  18. Taunia 2014.11.23

    Right, Kurtz?

    I'd think there'd be a *slight* discussion on guns, maybe what makes a mass murder do what they do, but not even that? Or further, what's going on with our kids, reservations, poverty, etc.

    How many multiple murders/suicides does South Dakota have going on to make this post of quasi interest?

    Or is it just that it's just a bunch of dehumanized Indians on a reservation?

    30-40 shots fired, 4 people dead. Hello??

    Holy hell we're screwed.

  19. jerry 2014.11.23

    It only shows that the purse strings of some are more important than the loss of life and why it happened in the first place. Illegal workers are trying to stay alive while legal workers kill themselves. All the time we are fussing and arguing, the republican agenda is doing a mission creep for the heart and soul of this land.

  20. Taunia 2014.11.23

    What kind of press would 30-40 shots fired in a home filled with white, wealthy businessmen in Sioux Falls get?

    How many comments would be on those posts?

    News and theories on the death of a South Dakota white government guy goes on for a year and it's used in political campaigns. He probably wasn't even murdered.

    Was the murder/suicide government-related? Job related? Drug/alcohol-related? A love triangle? Mental disorder-related? Was it planned or spur of the moment? How does an Indian community handle this versus the white kid neighborhood? What's the murder/suicide rate in South Dakota? Among Indians? Is there potential for something similar happening again soon in the area?

    That's what I was expecting here.

  21. larry kurtz 2014.11.23

    Taunia, in South Dakota teenagers are assaulted on a pool table in the governor's mansion: nothing to see here.

  22. Owen 2014.11.23

    @Daniel Buresh. But at the same time Jackley will somehow use this to his political benefit.
    I'd say not not hated but concerned people. And if you'd say on the War Toilet you'd be banned from the site

  23. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.11.23

    Daniel Buresh said, "Had they not warned the public and it wasn't until they id'd the bodies that they knew someone was running, you'd be crying that they waited 4 hours."

    I agree. It turned out to be a mistake, but could very well have been a good faith error from an abundance of caution. In terms of the notification issue, there isn't one.

    Regarding media coverage, this item was reported on KARE 11, the Minneapolis NBC affiliate. SD very rarely makes local news here. MN had a big school shooting on the Red Lake res in the northern part of the state. There was extensive coverage on KARE 11 and other sources.

  24. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.24

    Hey! I'm glad South Dakota could get some out-state press!

    Jerry, I can understand why someone would think our state investigators would have a hard time distinguishing between murder and suicide.

    Dan, which info coming out of Sisseton leads you to your usual excuses for your favored powers that be? Even if the suspect shot himself in the head, consider the information law enforcement had: Saturday morning, someone was telling them that Arbach was the shooter. Who would have had such knowledge? Was that informant a witness? If so, why was the witness not able to point to the body and say, "There he is"?

    Taunia, we'll get there. I suspect we need more information about the crime and the suspect's background to have the fuller debate (although that depends on the care and attention of law enforcement to a crime in Indian Country). "30 to 40 rounds were fired by about three separate bursts"—assault rifle, right? Thank goodness Arbach had the firepower necessary to protect his liberty.

  25. larry kurtz 2014.11.24

    Dog pack kills child in Pine Ridge
    Tribe rounds up and kills dogs after mauling
    Life, death and dogs on Pine Ridge
    Child's death investigated as a dog attack
    Dog rescuers intervene at Pine Ridge

  26. David Newquist 2014.11.24

    As reporters know, when there is overlapping jurisdictions in a major felony, one of the law enforcement agencies takes the lead to coordinate the investigation and information coming out of the investigation. To issue a bulletin about a perpetrator on the loose when he is lying dead at the scene is not confusion. It’s incompetence.

    This is just another instance in which the nature of law enforcement in South Dakota is revealed. The incompetence and shady dealings are usually covered up through the statutory right given officials in the the state legal code to withhold information about what officers are doing and how they are doing it.

    This discretion about releasing information covers up wrongful convictions and malfeasance. Occasionally we get accounts as in the Taliaferro-Schwab trial that reveals the state of law enforcement and justice in South Dakota. We see how the statutes work in the Benda death, which follows the patern followed in the Morgan Lewis death in Aberdeen in 2004.

    When trouble comes, never call the cops. Rather, stay as far away from them as you can. You’ll be a lot safer that way.

  27. Daniel Buresh 2014.11.24

    "But at the same time Jackley will somehow use this to his political benefit."

    Really Owen? How so? Why politicize it for some gain when you guys can't even find a challenger? Looks like cory used it for his personal gain so I guess he beat Jackley to that low level for which he will purportedly stoop.

    "Dan, which info coming out of Sisseton leads you to your usual excuses for your favored powers that be? Even if the suspect shot himself in the head, consider the information law enforcement had: Saturday morning, someone was telling them that Arbach was the shooter. Who would have had such knowledge? Was that informant a witness? If so, why was the witness not able to point to the body and say, "There he is"?"

    Personal friends of the victims, and various other places anyone with half a brain could find. Maybe the only witness was his girlfriend who had multiple bullet holes. She should have just jumped on her feet and ran to where ever his corpse was and pointed to officers exactly what happened. Damn you guys are demanding. Too bad it sounds like she was barely clinging to life. Man, she must be completely incompetent if she couldn't even do that for police. Now, I hope you realize how sarcastic that was to point out how stupid you sound when you seem to think they should know every little detail. And Mr Newquist chimes in with more of his brain-dead analysis. You guys are a bunch of kooks who need to find something better to do than insult the people who have to pick up the pieces of this mess only to be met with criticism from people who think it works like it does on some tv show. Fools.

  28. larry kurtz 2014.11.24

    Jackley is an openly partisan attorney general: the Montana GOP AG intends to appeal a judge's decision in that state after a judge ruled a voter-initiated law banning marriage equality was ruled unconstitutional.

    Politics as usual.

  29. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.24

    Hey, David Newquist, how many warrantless searches do you think took place Saturday morning as police went storming around looking for a suspect who lay dead back at the crime scene?

    Dan, David Newquist is very much brain alive. He is no more brain-dead than the officers who didn't notice their suspect was lying dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the crime scene. You should show more respect for Newquist's cogitations. Funny, Dan, how you blithely excuse the bumbling of the authorities you like but rail against the errors of others who don't fit your political preferences.

    And yes, Dan, we are as demanding as we think law enforcement should be. If we had time to get the name of the suspect and enough information to justify throwing a photo out to the press and sounding Red Alert for the tri-state area, we had time to get more information from whoever was giving us that name.

  30. Daniel Buresh 2014.11.24

    "If we had time to get the name of the suspect and enough information to justify throwing a photo out to the press and sounding Red Alert for the tri-state area, we had time to get more information from whoever was giving us that name."

    A girl clinging to life probably had barely enough energy to whisper a name and you expect the full story as she gets airlifted out of state to save her life. Your ignorance continues to display that even with a head, you can't seem to find your brain. Keep digging that hole Cory.

  31. larry kurtz 2014.11.24

    Was the Benda coroner present after the Sisseton shooting, too?

  32. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.24

    Dan has to construct more hypotheticals than I do to defend a basic failure of investigative work. Dan's argument is thus weaker. The undeniable fact is that the investigators screwed up in a public way.

  33. Les 2014.11.24

    It is possible the shooter had little to no face left. It is possible he had no ID on him. It is also a small community that does not regularly deal with situations like this thankfully. It doesn't matteer if these officers have seen this before, the brain function is disturbed by the sight of a mass killing such as this.

  34. mike from iowa 2014.11.24

    They are all unrecognizable to me. I've never seen any of them before,since or after. Those on the scene had some idea who they were supposed to be looking for and someone of them may have known the suspect from previous experience. They probably had a good idea what he was wearing-yeah but no one said it might be blood spattered. How wuz we ta know?

  35. mike from iowa 2014.11.24

    Don't major crimes on reservations fall under the FBI's jurisdiction?

  36. David Newquist 2014.11.24

    Let's see if the Attorney General's office discharges its responsibility and accountability to the people by offering an explanation for issuing that bulletin. Mistakes are made, but someone owes the citizens an explanation. Of course, citizens who demand explanations for such bumbling by those who are charged by training and professional standards not to bumble are brain-dead fools. Democracy and information is not currently in vogue in this police state.

  37. Valley Road 2014.11.24

    As a resident of Roberts county, I'm glad that the alert was issued. We took precautionary measures in our household, and were relieved to find out that the suspect was not at large. The fact that this post has become a bashing of the AG's office is unfortunate. The allegations and innuendo of a cover-up before the investigation is complete and the facts have been released is absolutely asinine. You can also criticize the local law enforcement as much as you want, but in rural South Dakota, most county and city law enforcement will never encounter a crime scene such as this. If there was an error made, they erred on the side of public safety, which I appreciate.

  38. JeniW 2014.11.24

    Valley Road, the bashing of the AG's is due to Jackley's history.

    Some of the blame can also be placed on the fact with with instant news coverage, some people have the expectation that today's news should be put into a neat little package yesterday.

    It was indeed a tragic situation. I cannot imagine how frightening it must have been for the Sisseton community and for the people living in the surrounding area.

  39. Taunia 2014.11.24

    " If there was an error made, they erred on the side of public safety, which I appreciate." ~ Valley Road.

    Succinct. No conspiracy, no one was harmed and no great, bleeding apologies are necessary.

    I think I'd feel as Valley Road does.

  40. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.11.24

    I'm with Valley Road and Taunia. Much ado about nothing here.

    (So why am I reading and commenting here? Guilty.)

  41. alan 2014.11.24

    mike form iowa...the town of siseton no on the reservation

  42. Valley Road 2014.11.24

    Alan, Sisseton is located on the Lake Traverse Reservation. Roughly 1/3 of Roberts county is made up of Native Americans.
    JeniW, I'm not defending any record or history of the AG's office. However, the decision to issue an alert was more than likely a procedural decision based on information from local law enforcement.

  43. Daniel Buresh 2014.11.25

    "Dan has to construct more hypotheticals than I do to defend a basic failure of investigative work. Dan's argument is thus weaker. The undeniable fact is that the investigators screwed up in a public way."

    Really Cory?.....you mean the details coming out that when they arrived, all they heard was a whimper....someone who had almost given up on trying to survive ... Your attempts to dismiss my reality and substitute your own unsupported tv-wannabe hypotheticals to use the deaths of 4 individuals to promote your political and personal agenda is disgraceful. You know nothing of what you speak of and you have never had to pick up the pieces of bodies after something as horrible as this. You just like to sit behind that keyboard and criticize our officials because you are too pissed off that "your guy" isn't the one calling the shots. You have no argument, just a failed attempt to create web traffic while you make yourself look like a fool questioning the intentions of first responders doing their best to keep people safe.

  44. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.11.25

    Yup, really, Dan. I'm not postulating some "whimper". Where's the documentation for what you are cynically labeling your "reality"?

    Unlike you, I'm looking at the actions we saw: the AG announced a suspect, said he was armed and dangerous, released a photo. Fact, fact, fact. To take such actions, it is logical to conclude the investigators had spoken to someone and had investigated the house (if I recall correctly, three hours passed between the sound of gunfire and the AG press release). On that crime scene, they had four dead victims whom they could study quite closely—check the pockets, study the wounds, etc. One of those bodies had a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Officers had circumstances on the scene that allowed them to conclude within six hours that Arbach was the shooter and that he had shot himself.

    But at the three-hour mark, they still hadn't figured that out. They made a mistake. That's an undeniable fact. And that mistake put the tri-state area on unnecessary alert.

    And Dan, I don't even have a guy in this fight. I'm stick with your guy, who needs to do his job better.

  45. grudznick 2014.11.25

    The police made the right decision.

  46. Daniel Buresh 2014.11.25

    "Yup, really, Dan. I'm not postulating some "whimper". Where's the documentation for what you are cynically labeling your "reality"?"

    Do a little research Cory. The neighbor to where the shooting took place spoke of the women whimpering, clinging to life.

    "Unlike you, I'm looking at the actions we saw: the AG announced a suspect, said he was armed and dangerous, released a photo. Fact, fact, fact. To take such actions, it is logical to conclude the investigators had spoken to someone and had investigated the house (if I recall correctly, three hours passed between the sound of gunfire and the AG press release). On that crime scene, they had four dead victims whom they could study quite closely—check the pockets, study the wounds, etc. One of those bodies had a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Officers had circumstances on the scene that allowed them to conclude within six hours that Arbach was the shooter and that he had shot himself."

    Self inflicted....How can you tell that immediately when there are multiple victims and multiple firearms? The point is, they knew who the shooter was but couldn't identify the bodies. They made the public aware in case the shooter was not on scene and then updated accordingly.

    3 hours had passed. Wow, an entire 3 hours in which probably very few individuals stepped foot on scene after the initial victim was removed. They don't send local authorities in to process a scene. Many times they wait for DCI. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 6 hours to identify a disfigured body in a remote area of the state.....How dare they!

  47. Jana 2014.11.25

    I think the problem many of us, or at least for myself, is that Jackley's blatant partisan behavior while in office has made it hard for us to distinguish between his role as AG and that of partisan political champion.

    More the pity.

  48. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.11.25

    Jana is right, from where I sit.

  49. Jana 2014.11.25

    OK Marty! Way to draw a crooked line to how you are on top of this for South Dakota!

    From his interview on KSOO and reported on Todd Epp's Northern Plains News blog. Pity, Todd didn't get him on track...Todd, you have a unique position as an on air journalist...don't let the follow up question elude you for the sake of keeping Rick Knobe's own ego and political position scare you.

    Here's Jackley talking about how he has prepared for situations like Ferguson. After saying he has a plan, he holds this up as an example.

    "In fact, he says his office is doing just that for North Dakota authorities. Perception is important, according to Jackley."

    "While South Dakota does not have a large percentage of African-American like Ferguson, it does have a significant Native American minority population. In such situations, Jackley says it is important to proceed fairly."

    “For the most part, we’ve had several shootings where either we’ve had a Native American officer that has been involved in the shooting or the suspect being Native American,” Jackley said. “We try to be careful about those relationships but at the end of the day, we have to judge it and base it upon the facts.”

    Yep Marty...Native American cops shooting Native Americans is a big problem. Forget about profiling, ad nauseum, of police profiling of Native Americans. It's native-on-native shootings that have you concerned!

    Seriously Marty...you don't think we have a problem with Native Americans just maybe not getting the same deal as the deal your Country Club friends' kids get? Seriously Marty?

    Marty, don't kid yourself. You got your job through being a political hack for the appointment and you won the election because you had an R after your name.

    Justice is bigger than that. For the sake of your face while you shave in the morning...please think beyond your own selfish and partisan motivations. Justice is bigger than you will ever be in your wildest dreams.

  50. DK 2014.11.26

    I realize that I'm getting into this very late in the game, but I feel compelled to in this case...

    Cory, here's your "whimpering:" http://www.ksfy.com/home/headlines/Sisseton-shooting-victims-father-remembers-his-son-283605141.html

    But the reason I'm posting at all is because of the warped view of the police that some people seem to have on this thread. No, I do not know all policemen and women, but I do know quite a few. Someone very close to me used to be one. He quit being a cop because he couldn't stand the politics involved. For instance, at his last job there was a rotation of who was sent to the Sturgis rally every year so that everyone got a turn. From what I understand, most South Dakotan police want to go work at Sturgis. However, he was never sent when it was his turn because he was (one of?) the hardest working, most knowledgeable officer(s) where he worked. There was a female officer there who was sent several times instead. She, on one occasion I heard of, was unable to shoot a deer that had been hit on the road to put it out of its misery because it was too difficult for her to think of killing a dying animal. The former cop I knew remarked that if she couldn't kill a dying deer, how could she put down a kid if there was ever a school shooting and something HAD to be done to save lives?

    While I did not know any of the police who the man I am close to worked with at his second job, I did know several of the people he worked with at his first job. And you know what? Even the ones who the person close to me did not like, while some of them had ego issues or were not very professional or whatever, they were trying to do a good job and serve the community.

    Obviously I'm not enamored with all cops. Not everyone in the profession is a good person or good at their jobs. In fact, I might be so bold as to say that EVERYONE in the profession is HUMAN. That's what I feel that you've lost sight of, Cory, as well as some of the others writing on this blog.

    The person I know who was a cop became a cop to help people. His mom was NOT happy when he told her that he was going to college for criminal justice. She wanted him to pick a safer occupation. You know why she accepted what he chose to do? Because before he went to college he told her that he wanted to be a cop so badly because he felt called to help people. She never said another word to him about his occupation choice after that.

    My sense is that this "helping people" motivation is the norm. No, not everyone chooses this occupation for that reason alone, but police officers put their lives on the line frequently, even in South Dakota where people think that "nothing happens." This isn't an occupation where people are making millions of dollars. Furthermore, it's an occupation that automatically comes with certain people distrusting or even hating those who do it simply because a person does what he does without others knowing anything about the human being behind the badge.

    Yes, it is possible that the police in Sisseton knew the shooter was there the whole time and put out the alert just to scare people. Some police do have a "power complex." It is also possible that they were not doing their jobs very well and should have known the shooter was there. Obviously, if the female officer I spoke of above who couldn't shoot a dying deer were one of the officers on the scene, I would probably go with this theory. But she wasn't there.

    I do not know any of the police who responded to this incident. What I do know (and even knew on Saturday just from reading news articles) is that the shooter did, in fact, shoot himself in the head. That does make positive identification at least a little more difficult. Does anyone know how the shooter was found? I don't. Could he have been lying face down on the floor? Yes. Like it was stated above, the DCI has to process the scene and collect evidence before much can be done with it. So would the first people on the scene have turned the shooter's body over if he was face down or messed with his body in any way other than taking a pulse to determine if he was alive and needed medical assistance or not? Probably not. Do you know how the police knew that Arbach was the shooter? No? Could someone have seen him enter the home and then not have been inside the house to know if he had killed himself or not? Or could he have texted/called/talked to someone before the shooting, letting them know what he was going to do, and then that person reported it without being present at the scene? Do you know what a self inflicted gunshot wound looks like to the point that you know it should be easy for an officer to walk up to a body and quickly pronounce that a gunshot wound was self inflicted without moving the body before the DCI investigates and takes into account all of the trajectory measurements that have to be done? Furthermore, have any of you ever walked in on a scene like this? I know I haven't, but I know people who have walked in on very grisly scenes. I've talked to them about it, and to say that it isn't easy is an understatement. Perhaps in other areas where scenes like this are more common, police and first responders get used to it. I don't know. But for the people I know in South Dakota, while they do have to deal with horrible scenes maybe even several times a year, this isn't an everyday thing for them. Shock or acute stress reaction/disorder exists even for police. In that condition, people don't think very clearly, no matter who a person is. It is an automatic, psychological response with unavoidable, physiological symptoms that all people have to traumatic situations, whether it is just the "scene" or whether it is an actual threatening situation in which someone might be hurt.

    We can all convene on this blog post and speculate on what could have happened all day. We can talk about what we think we would have done or how smart we are or how obvious things should be. But, really guys? If you want to be cynical, that's good for you, but that's definitely not my choice. I choose to think that the cops who responded to this WERE good people who WERE trying to protect others with their warning to the public and who WERE doing the right thing when they released that warning. While they could have been incompetent or on a power trip, no amount of speculating on a blog will ever figure that out. If you are so interested in this situation that you have to know whether the cops who responded did a good job with the information and resources they had available to them or not, then go get a job overseeing them. Go get involved with them. Go watch their work and get to know them personally. Unless you're willing to do that, cynicism is really all you have and all you'll ever have to support your theories about how badly the police messed up here. Perhaps my optimism in this circumstance isn't warranted. Reasonable people can debate that. But at the VERY least, a neutral, removed view is more appropriate than a cynical approach without more information. Because unless you subscribe to a view that first tearing down others and their assumed motives or speculated competency is helpful in this or any situation, cynicism just doesn't make sense.

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