Last updated on 2014.02.19
...and of course, "God hates queers."
Sioux Falls has a new church, that's probably less likely to invite me in than Madison's new mosque. "Pastor"* Tod Phillips of Glory Baptist Church proclaims his church's freedom from "anything... contemporary or liberal." He declares the King James Version of the Bible error-free; all other versions of the Bible are Satan's words. He declares pastors who baptize babies satanic. He declares such things from his pulpit on East 28th Street and in occasional street-corner screaming sessions.
Tod Phillips also urges men to drag you ladies to his church... by your hair:
My wife wears pants every day. She has some liberal tendencies. She finds the Jezebel blog quite entertaining. If I ever tell her she better not say anything, I will expect serious skunk-eye. And if I ever grab her by the hair and drag her, I will expect to go to prison for domestic abuse.
If I didn't know better, I might think that Tod Phillips was a thinly disguised member of Fred Phelps's Westboro Baptist Church. (Phillips... Phelps... hear the similarity?) If you can bear to listen, Phillips posts audio of one of his repetitive street rants on hell. The title: "Hell Preached to Sodomite Crowd." The date: November 21, 2010. The key quote:
God hates queers. God hates homos. God hates Sodomites. Hell is real.
[Tod Phillips, "Hell Preached to Sodomite Crowd," street demonstration, Sioux Falls, SD, 2010.11.21]
On November 21, 2010, Tod Phillips joined the Fred Phelps fanatics who invaded Sioux Falls with their hateful filth and found themselves outnumbered by South Dakotans determined to preach love, not self-aggrandizing hate. In the second half of the audio, Phillips tells a KSFY reporter that he's not part of the Westboro group, but he is of their thuggish, hateful ilk.
All but a handful of Sioux Fallsians are ignoring Phillips and his hateful message. failure to offer message of hate. That's fortunate for all of us interested in truth, community, and accurate theology. If Jesus of Nazareth has anything to offer, we won't learn it from the cranky man on the corner darning Catholics, Lutherans, uppity women, and gays to heck.
Update 2011.12.13 05:45 MST: Watch Phillips play televangelist on his YouTube channel. The notoriously inaccurate America-centric Mercator map behind him is metaphorically appropriate on multiple levels.
*Tod Phillips has about as much claim to the title "Pastor" as I do. He offers these credentials:
Pastor Phillips went to same Bible college as John the Baptist (John 16:13), ordained by the Lord. Just like John, Pastor Phillips, is a man sent from God (John 1:6). He has won hundreds of souls to Christ and is very dedicated to preserving the pure gospel message of Jesus Christ, while exposing false religions and false gospels. He is a modern day Jeremiah, blowing the whistle on false preachers (Jeremiah 29:9).
I've read a Bible verse or two. I like to expose false religions, false gospels, and false preachers. You could call my blog one big jeremiad. Call me Pastor, too!
What do you think? A preacher in Sioux Falls broadcasts that it's ok to drag your wife by her hair. Is that protected speech? For starters, he's a self-appointed (and therefore unaccountable) false prophet. Jesus wouldn't ever drag ANY woman for ANY reason by her hair. He won't even find that in his beloved King James. The guy is delusional and dangerous. On the bright side, on his Facebook page he laments that after all the street preaching he's done here he only had seven in church that Sunday. (He, his wife and three kids makes 5). So we can be glad his influence is limited. But I view him as a threat to his family and not just our community. If this is what a guy says publicly, what is he doing privately? Just for fun on occasion I have engaged these types in Bible ping pong and though it's not hard to win I've always walked away, pardon me, feeling like I got in a pissin' contest with a skunk. And he's not emitting what the Bible refers to as the "fragrance of Christ."
God hates sin...but he loves his creation. God will take ANY sinner into his arms that calls to Him....but God loves all of us too much to let us continue to wallow in sin WHATEVER that sin is.
I think it's safe to say that St. Paul probably wouldn't have scored any brownie points with today's American females. This guy sounds like Sibby on steroids.
Peyote, cannabis, and polygamy are all sacraments in religions that predate christianity: sin is a mental illness created when stupid people have children.
Get over yourselves, you pious earth haters.
Sin is what CAFOs, industrial ethanol, and non-organic dairies are doing to your homes and children: no remorse, no ethics.
The farther one is on the fringe, the less I think they should get any attention. A guy who has a flock of 7 (family and two others) is of no more import/significance than a nutty neighbor who thinks kids who run after their wiffle ball in the street are fair game to be run over since the streets are for cars (I know someone who had such a neighbor who I think was being facetious to some degree but there was an element . . . .).
Let's not give these people ink.
When one starts thinking God is on my side rather than I am on God's side they have the risk of bullying their own interpretation. If in their mind they want the glory, God will give them none in the long run. Fruits of the Spirit of God are "patience, kindness longsuffering against these there is no law." Not sure of chapter and verse on that but it is in the Bible. Gifts of the Spirit are wisdom, understanding and teaching etc.. This means you can explain yourself clear enough that no bullying is necessary. A Spiritual person also knows God is in control and his timing will work best. They see no need to force their own way immediately since God has the plan and it will work in his time and his speed. He seems pathetically slow at times, but that is his choice. I saw on TV this moring that Sandusky's wife is dying of cancer. Could God's justice be more severe than if he gets caught while his wife is dying. If his whole house of cards falls at once could have been God's plan. Both as Christians and as citizens we have a responsibility to do what is right and promote justice. But when it seems way to slow, it still works out for good.
"This guy sounds like Sibby on steroids."
Bill, I feel your hate. It seems like your methods are more in line with Phillips than your delusional mind will comprehend.
"He declares the King James Version of the Bible error-free"
This should concern of concer to Phillips:
The first edition of the King James Bible, which was edited by Francis Bacon and prepared under Masonic supervision, bears more Mason's marks than the Cathedral of Strasburg.-Manly P. Hall, from a lecture Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins 1929
Sib, you have a little kinder, gentler, more passive-aggressive tone and style, but other than that, there isn't a lick of difference between Phillips's theological arguments and yours, bud, (sad to say.)
Right, but whatever the Bible REALLY says, you're all for it, right, Sibby?
Word-for-word (whatever the right words really were)?
And against anybody who doesn't believe what you personally think it says?
Bill, I am still feeling the hate as you continue to be a false witness toward me. I have already made the point that Freemasons, in the name of Christianity, are behind the heresies and violence. Painting all Christians with a broad brush is intellectually shallow and prone to false accusations. Not very becoming of a unifying monist. Admit it Bill, you want Jesus Christ and His followers out of the way, so that the masses will be fooled into going along with the New Age Theocracy behind the making of the New World Order. Not too late for the deceived to repent.
No way, Sibby, I'm every bit as much of a Jesus freak as you are. You just don't like the way I think about him. Not much I can do about that.
A "freak"? Thanks for proving my points with that slip of the keyboard.
No problem Sibby. No slip either, by the way.
Referring to followers of Jesus Christ as "freaks" is very 1960's New Agey.
Where you at on the Angel Moroni, Steve?
Whatever, Steve. Everybody says freak. Just like everybody says cool. It's part of the contemporary vernacular lexicon. Are you going to start dictating which words we all have to use now too?
You're starting to sound like those first French revolutionaries. Change the language, change the calendar, change everything. Is there anything about contemporary existence that you DO approve of, Sibby?
"Are you going to start dictating which words we all have to use now too?"
No Bill, say it how you want, it is very enlightening.
larry, Moroni could have been Satan himself.
"Referring to followers of Jesus Christ as â€œfreaksâ€ is very 1960â€²s New Agey"
Unless one was listening to DC Talk's 1995 album Jesus Freak, then it was pop/hip hop. I will admit that much ccm of the past 20 years or so is more corporate than Christian
As someone who was called a Jesus Freak in the 1970s, I appreciate Bill's use of the term. A little nostalgia is good for the soul.
The evening I was saved, becoming Born Again, there wasn't a Bible in sight. After breaking through the resistance on my part, a friend convinced me to listen to at least five minutes of a sermon on tape. That night in 1995 is crystal clear to me. I still have that taped sermon series.
I bought an NASB soon after and did a three month study of what to look for in a believing church in order to join. I reference other versions to help with understanding and also reference sermons by a variety of pastors, some of them long dead by centuries.
I suppose this Phillips guy doesn't understand that God has His will for discipleship of His children and also faithful in teaching it. Even to those of us reading NASB or New Living Translation. I also suppose this guy feels like a person cannot be saved from a sermon taught beyond reading the KJV even though I read from it too.
But hey, now we know about this guy because of an Atheist. Go figure. Do you think God is at work here?
BTW - Hiya Hickey, Sibson, Jones and Hubbel. Okay *sigh* and BF too.
Hiya, Bruce. Namaste, brother.
Gotta love it when we get a rock star born again conservative Indian, a flaming white liberal, an anti New Age Theocracy neo-con, a politician/preacher, a crazy white guy, plus a couple stubborn Northern European's to argue over a deranged pulpit pusher's use of words from the bible in horribly poor context on an athesists blog. :)
Thank you, Charlie, for crystallizing the value added to South Dakota culture by the Madville Times. Conversations happen here that don't happen anywhere else. Enjoy!
Something deep down in my heart says I would like you if we ever met Cory. Knowing emotion is the hardest thing to put into writing I take back all the mean things I have said about you and will try my best to smile every time you write something so far off the left side of the page that it nearly comes back around to the right. :)
PS-That would be the perfect poly-sci spin.
The evening i was saved then born-again reminded me that the Black Hills is the heart of Earth:
That's a very beautiful thing, Larry. Thank you for it. Namaste.
that means a lot coming from you, Bill; thanks. Peace be unto you, too.
Great post Charlie. Blogs CAN create the most bizarre bedfellows.
I don't want to lose track of the main point. This guy is a voice representing nobody. We have given him more "ink" than he deserves.
"anti New Age Theocracy neo-con"
Charlie, if you are saying I am the neo-con, then you are way off-base. The neo-cons of the GOP are a big part, and perhaps the most dangerous part, of the New Age Theocracy.
Alright! Maybe Charlie can finally get to the bottom of where Sibby's really coming from. Watch out for the rabbit holes, Hoffman. And if you see the Mad Hatter down there, or the Cheshire Cat, tell 'em hi for me.
Bill, in case you don't know...you are one of the rabbits, so stop digging them holes.
Boy is this nut NUTS! First off, even Jesus (peace & blessings be upon him) never promoted Violence against women. Secondly PANTS were not worn by men or women (as outer garments) at the time of Christ. So does this nittwit say men should wear thobes (the middle eastern long shirt worn by TRUE Christians of the Bible)? However, if he wasn't such a hater he may have taken the time to learn that women DID wear pants to be modest, under their long dresses. But they weren't promoted by EUROPEANS since it was "foreign" and God forbid, we admit the religion of Christianity was a Middle Eastern religion. I wonder too if this "pastor's" female family members cover their hair when they pray? That too can be found in 1st Corinthians.
As for his claim of being a Pastor, where does that word exist even in a King James version? Its not a word found in the Bible, so why is he using it, other than to pretend he has legitimate religious training to lead a church. I suspect I have more religious training in Christian theology and I'm not even Christian!
"Pastor Anidash"—that would really upset some apple carts.
Charlie: No guarantees: we might sit down for lunch in person, and you might decide I really am as big of an SOB as I may sound in print. But I'll happily take that risk.
Troy: your point is well worth considering. It was discussed in this very household, as it was last year when Fred Phelps came to town. I'm honestly sure which is the right course: ignore jerks or brand them? Phelps is who he is only because he gets publicity. But that doesn't that publicity also help us respond to his evil?
I don't plan to write a lot about Phillips; I suspect that he's not crafty enough to gain enough followers to make much more of a splash in Sioux Falls. But in case he tries to gain more followers, it seems worthwhile to have some public record of his errors.
Cory and Troy;
The strongest personalities I have ever encountered in life have always stood loudly alone in their opinions of right and wrong. The important part of both of you is that I can see and understand where that edge draws out onto the fray with both of your obvious cerebral thought processes.
That said lunch, or dinner, or drinks at Deadwood over New Years would be fantastic. H and I are thinking about a plan, you both could be in it.
As I stated in the past, the most important thing in life we have complete control over are our relationships with others. Lets all try to make them memorable and worth having. :)
This Phillips guy is absolutely disgusting!!! Few points I want to bring out that drives me nuts about Glory Baptist Church. I have watched all the YouTube videos of him and listened to all of his sermons on his website. Anyways, where in the bible does it say that you have to use a certain translation (ie: King James Version)? Also, where in the bible does it say that all women have to wear long dresses, and guys have to wear suits? I could not find it. The only thing that I have found with clothes is in Matthew 6:25-34. I will quote this from the New International Version, since I do not understand thee, thy, thou, bidst, etc... It is the "Do Not Worry" section: 25 â€œTherefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[e]?
28 â€œAnd why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe youâ€”you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, â€˜What shall we eat?â€™ or â€˜What shall we drink?â€™ or â€˜What shall we wear?â€™ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Also, Tod, how do you know that you are a false preacher or not? Take this into consideration as well (2 Timothy 2:14-25), taken from the New International Version: 14 Keep reminding Godâ€™s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless, Godâ€™s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: â€œThe Lord knows those who are his,â€ and, â€œEveryone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.â€
20 In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. 21 Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.
22 Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 Donâ€™t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lordâ€™s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
So, Phillips, take that into consideration.
Daryl, I appreciate your knowledge of Scripture. Good response!
My husband will be thrilled to learn about this post. All the rewards he will have in heaven! Praise God! He doesnâ€™t have to drag me to church, you couldnâ€™t keep me away, I love his preaching, reminds me of John the Baptist. If Christian women were submissive like the Bible tells them to be, instead of wicked idolaters, then no dragging by the hair would be necessary, and btw he wasnâ€™t serious about literally dragging someone by the hair. You folks have made this scripture a reality:
Romans 1:21,22 KJB(the actual Word of God)
"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
***Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"
Thank you so much for posting!!!
Have fun with that, Lisa. If you choose to surrender your autonomy, you're free to make that mistake. But don't you dare presume to command my wife or daughter to submit to any man.
Oh, it's not my command. It's the Lord's, He commands it. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Him. You will have to stand before Him someday, whether you want to or not. But I hope for you and your family that you will come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, and if by some chance you already have, then I pray you will get right. I will be praying for you, and btw there is a link on our website- how to be saved from hell. http://www.glorybaptistchurch.org
Matthew 12:36 (KJB)
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
I understand, Lisa, that once someone says, "God tells me to!" there's not much else for us to discuss. But when you surrender your autonomy based on the command of a Supreme Being, you place yourself in a precarious position. All sorts of ills may be justified by such thinking. I know my wife is sufficiently dedicated to human freedom never to fall under such a spell or to encourage others to do so. I will strive mightily to protect my daughter from such false teaching as well.
I can only hope that whatever God you believe in will help you see that He/She/It did not instill intelligence and autonomy within you only to see you throw it away in subservience to another imperfect human being.
And please, save your prayers for people who really need help. My family lives well enough, and we abound in love and mutual respect.
I googled my name and found this blog write-up. I would like to thank you for the evil speaking. I thank you. You people know about Jesus Christ, but do not know Jesus Christ. Some of you have another Jesus.
This is not a defense, but a thank you. I would love to meet with you all. You can sit on one side of the room together in a huddle with whatever resources you would like. I will sit on the other side with the word of God, the King James Bible. You may ask me questions. I will give you Bible answers. Don't make contact with me by email, for I do not check them. Call the church phone and leave a message. 605-371-1559.
Just one comment I can't pass up, well, maybe two. Laura Hubbel, You are severely mistaken. God does hate the sinner. You must go to a liberal Shemaiah church. There is not one single verse in the Bible which states that God loves sinners in the present tense. It does not exist. It only exists in the past tense. You see, the converse is true. That is why people don't fear God these days, and don't come to the real Jesus Christ. They have been told that God loves them and so they believe they are alright, because God loves them. Psalms 5:5 (KJV) The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalms 11:5 (KJV) The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Laura, our God is a consuming fire and a person does not want to meet up with Him if they do not have the blood of Jesus Christ appropriated to their soul as was picture on the night of the first passover in the land of Egypt. They will be purged in hell and the lake of fire, as Rev 21:27 states that Revelation And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. God does not throw people into hell whom He loves. He wants to love us, but can only love us through Jesus Christ of the Bible. We only have ACCESS to His grace through Christ. Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
A man is born and remains under the wrath (fury of hatred) of God until He comes to Christ on His terms and gets born again the Bible way, according to what the Bible says. John 3:36 (KJV) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:3 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
1 Peter 1:23 (KJV) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Many people call themselves born again, but are not born again according to the word of God. Neither baptism, nor turning over a new leaf, nor going to church, nor joining church, nor tithing, nor "repenting of sins" (which phrase is not found in the real Bible for salvation), nor being sorry for sins, nor making Jesus your Lord, asking Him into your heart, etc. makes you born again. Salvation is crystal clear and should be taught very clearly without men's satanic clichÃ©s of works or error. Laura, if you consider yourself a Christian, do your Saviour a favor and do not seek politics. 1 Timothy 5:14
I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
Steve Hickey, on your profile pic, you almost have the face of a man, but God says to not mar the corners of your beard like the heathen. You have the hair of a woman. There's a reason why they call it a goatee, you look like a heathen, a goat of the devil, and not a sheep of God.
II Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
I am only making these few comments, for this media is too time consuming. Call me, set up an appointment, and I will show how all of you are wrong on all of your points, from the Bible.
Nobody approved John the Baptist to preach but God. Nobody ordained Jesus but His Father. Do you really think that the Pharisees would ordain Him? Isaiah 53 says Jesus was a root out of dry ground. There was no truth in His day, thus there was no life. He was a root of life out of the dry ground.
I will not be making any more comments on this thread, but thank you for the evil speaking.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
You're in trouble now Larry. Pastor Tod would want you to say Uriah sent to wall to die by David.
This guy is a liar. He says he googled his name and stumbled on this post. Yet earlier his wife says she found it and was eager to show it to him. It's the least of his lies, but even so, the truth is not in him.
I notice the good pastor didn't reference John 3:16. Oh well.
Put it this way, imagine that God was the neighbor kid's dad, and he puts out this edict that says, "Look people, I hate all of your guts. And unless you make friends with my son, I will make sure you all suffer miserably for all eternity."
I gotta think that any sensible person's resonse would be, "Listen buddy, no offense to your boy here, he's a good guy, he really is. But you, my friend seem like a real asshole. Why don't you just cut the bullshit and go take some anger management classes, dood? I'm just sayin."
Yo, LK: never metaphor that I didn't have sex with.
Pastor Tod must have told his wife not to speak unless spoken to, too. That's the only explanation for his bogus intro phrase. When my wife finds folks talking smack about me online, she tells me. Working as a team with mutual respect works so much better than man-worshipping hierarchical stuff. I do not need to be my wife's false idol.
Anyone who in any way calls Lora Hubbel "liberal" clearly does not know what he is talking about.
And we are thanked for the "evil speaking"? What sanctimonious rot.
Larry, if a rose is just a rose then what's a metaphor?
Kinda makes me wonder whether Pasturd Phillips wasn't referencing a certain married legislator/cleric with a teacher for a significant other.
I like how he invites us all over for a chat, but we we have to sit together in a huddle on the other side of the room. Hmpf. I don't suppose he'll provide the snacks either.
"I donâ€™t suppose heâ€™ll provide the snacks either"
You're probably right, Bill. I would guess that someone who won't supply "bread which strengtheneth man's heart" also won't offer "wine that maketh glad the heart of man." (Psalm 104:15 from the KJV)
Do you suppose he cares that the late atheist Christopher Hitchens loved the KJV?
LK, probably not. Doesn't seem much like a Hitchens fan. But dang, couldn't he at least spring for a little of that lime jello with pears in it like the Lutherans have?
Just checking my (Oxford KJV) Leviticus 19:27 here LK.
Then looking at Pastor Tod's pix on his website, in light of his critique of the Hickey hairdo.
"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."
Looks to me like the good pastor Phillips has those temples pretty well rounded off. Not a Hasidic forelock in sight.
And his beard ain't just "marred at the corners," it's been wiped off clean.
What the heck?
I was expecting to see a guy who's really got it goin' on.
This guy looks like my insurance agent or something.
(...Tod's the one on the left, I'm thinkin'. Pretty sure he's not a soul brother.)
I'm partial to the hot dish that my home chuch served for the meal after a funeral. It truly was comfort food.
I'm working at school right now. The link is blocked by our filters. Seems a bit ironic.
LK, was it that scalloped corn stuff? Or the tuna-noodle casserole with the potato chip crumbles? If so, I know what you mean man, either one of those can really help a guy chill out, ya know?
Hi, just a quick btw...John 3:16 is PAST tense, Not present tense (in the real Bible-KJB)....and my husband is not a liar, he googled his name today and found this blog. He was aware of it before but hadn't looked at it himself. When I googled Pastor Tod Phillips Sioux Falls it came up (he was not home because he works and I stay home with the children). He googled just his name and it came up per the tags.
Real men face the people they are accusing. You have the phone number, if you choose that route. My husband is a gentle, kind man, but how else do you preach? but to preach. My husband wasn't accusing Lora of being a liberal(that her church must be liberal). At the end of his comment to her he was just saying a woman that seeks political office is not a keeper of the house and is a reproach unto our Maker. The verse is referenced in his note above and an additional verse for you that are slow:
To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Go ahead and keep twisting Tod's words and blaspheming God. You are accountable to God.
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
And again, thank you very much for the evil speaking, we appreciate it more than you can ever know.
Hmmm ...not a peep about the jello. Rats.
It was a typical ground beef, elbow macaroni, tomato sauce goulash type hot dish.
Oh, yeah. Know the stuff. We had that about once a week when I was a kid. Grandma made it better than mom did. Served it with a couple of slices of buttered Sunbeam white bread. Enough to put us hypoglycemics into a blood sugar coma for about two hours after eating.
Interesting comment from Lisa, btw.
Not sure what to make of that "past tense" thing.
Let's see, we've got the whole getting kicked out of the garden deal (hey you kids, get off my lawn... and put some clothes on dammit), then the flood wipeout, then the thing where he tells Abraham to kill HIS kid, then the whole thing about Moses not getting to go into the land of milk and honey, ...and Lot's wife and daughters... and Job... and Jonah...
Interesting dude alright.
And so that must have been when he still LOVED us?
No wonder Tod and Lisa seem so spooked.
According to them, we've got one pretty flipped-out, bi-polar boss on our hands here.
Oh, enough with trying to make this a macho-man contest, Lisa. We're all here. We're facing each other as publicly as we can in conversation from Sioux Falls, Yankton, Rapid City, Spearfish, and wherever the heck Larry is peripatetifying right now. I could just as easily say, "Come on, Pastor Tod, drive out here to Spearfish and prooftext to my face, if you're man enough." But I don't play that game. This blog, this comment section, the Internet as a whole—this is our public forum. We put our names and reputations to what we say. We're willing to back up every word. I don't need to throw in ad hominem to win my arguments. I also don't need to appeal to the unprovable supernatural.
Hierachy and oppression are the true evil here.
Please, Lisa, get help. Stop worshipping the false idol of your husband. Realize your true autonomy, the freedom Christ bought for you with his blood.
For Pastor Tod so loved Lisa he married her.
If that was Lisa at all.
My favorite is the strawberry cheesecake thingy although green bean casserole with canned onions on the top is great.
I wonder if the Pastor have taken any Philosophy of Religion classes, and had to struggle with the concepts of God being timeless/eternal, and whether that is a "in time" eternity or an "outside of time" eternity...and then all the issues that poor out when you start making a big deal over whether a verb is past tense or not...
Joseph, see the footnote in the original post on Pastor Tod's complete lack of academic credentials. He has no formal preparation or recognition as a pastor. He has done none of the hard intellectual work to support the things his prideful soul wants to shout. That's why he has to resort to childish tactics like saying Pastor Hickey looks like a woman. That line alone demonstrates both his intellectual impotence and his misogynist piggery... because really, what kind of a man uses "woman" as an insult?
Yeah... and a bearded woman at that. A bearded woman who trims her beard wrong. Just plain weird.
...but the worst part is no snack menu if we come for a visit. No rice crispy marshmallow bars, no mixed nuts, no coffee, donuts, nuthin'. Might as well just do it right here, Pastor Tod.
Come on, what would it hurt?
p.s. And what kind of guy makes his wife do all the talkin' for him anyway? If she's gonna do that, the least you could do is make us all some popcorn.
Joseph, good point about "outside of time eternities." How many of those do you suppose there are, as opposed to the infinite number of "in time" eternities?
Todd Philips obtained his education from Hyles-Anderson College. This is a fundamental independent cult in Ind. I grew up in the same IFB style church all my life until a few years ago when I realized there was more sin, misery and un-Christian behavior in this "church" than there was in the secular world. Check out "Do Right Hyles Anderson" on facebook and see the pain, misery, sexual, physical and emotional abuse these people have endured. Standing behind a King James Bible and a vocal viewpoint is very thinly veiled once you live and see what really goes on in these peoples lives. This is not a man of God this is a cult that says they teach Christ's love. The fact of the matter is they are the most judgmental people you'll ever meet doing the work of Satin and pushing people away from Christ.
A religions are cults, Travis: follow the money.
Travis, I hope you've found a worldview that gets you through the day without the control, abuse, and baloney of HAC.
For what it's worth, Todd Phillips sends this response:
Interesting comment, I do not get paid, I am not part of the establishment/state churches and refuse to get a "degree" from the unbiblical "Bible Colleges" so I can pastor a so-called "church" and get a paycheck. I work for the Lord with or without a paycheck. I left HAC when I realized "Bible College" is against God.
Wow. Nothing like dismissing all scholarly study of Scripture to justify one's own false-messianic power trip.
Travis, you went to a liberal, worldly corporation church that is linked to the whore of Revelation(the marriage of the church and the state), and that is why you will find the same behavior there as in a lost people church, the preacher obeys the govt over God's Word and doesn't reprove the people and cares more about a paycheck and avoiding persecution than the church of Christ. You need to first find an unincorporated assembly of believers who are not liberal and worldly and are KJB only. And if you find them, they will be "underground"(under the radar) or in prison. The Lord should be coming soon, so pick yourself up off the ground, and be a mighty man of valour until He returns. For us to live is Christ and to die is gain. The lost depend on you, and your family depends on you. God bless you, may you live according to His will. Proverbs 24:16
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
I go to a church that teaches the gospel of Jesus Christ, that a sinner can find salvation through the blood that Jesus, shed for sinners like myself as well as any other willing to accept this gift. I do not find in necessary to judge, hold contempt or spew condemnation upon others simply because they do not hold the same beliefs that I do. Your words are a window into your spirit and there is a great deal of anger and bitterness. I am not sure what happened or who taught you to feel or act this way toward your fellow man and fellow Christian but you did not learn it in the scripture. This type of judgmental behavior is learned from man, most likely someone who is arrogant enough to believe that they are righteous and capable of claiming true knowledge of God's will for his people when in fact he/she is deceived. Check the ground upon which you stand before casting judgement upon others.
I too use my King James Bible on a daily basis however I also use several other texts in my studies as well. I am not naive enough to believe that our God is so small that only those who have this particular translation of Greek and Hebrew text are able to learn of our God. No, our God transcends beyond the translations of a bunch of scribes. The Lord has promised he will preserve his word and that word is preserved through his people. A living testimony of the redeeming power of Christ Jesus. It is you and your scriptural distortions and reckless casting of judgement and condemnation that destroys the Word of God and his desires to reach all people of the world. If the prophesy of Revelation is now upon us I would sadly say that it is churches of your view that are the whore of Revelation. So full of arrogance, self assurance, condemnation and judgement. You put your faith in works and isolate yourselves so much that you fail to let the Holy Spirit be a light to those around you. I challenge you with the same, pick yourself up, shake off the judgmental spirit, allow the Holy Spirit to fill you with kindness and love toward your fellow man, saved or unsaved and present yourself a living testimony for our Lord and Savior.
So Deborah, if we find one of those superior "underground" churches that properly adheres to the only acceptable translation of the Bible, are we allowed to drag you there by the hair?
Pastor Ted, I have a crew cut and dress conservatively. I like the King James Bible. And I don't only think, I know with every fiber of my being, that you are a horrible person. Why a dirty little legalist like you gets to run roughshod and terrorize a whole church full of well-meaning saints each week is a TESTAMENT to God's desire to let man handle his own affairs, instead of reaching in and correcting mistakes with His own huge Hand. Anyone with sense to see it should not just walk but run to a church where both the love of God and fear of His wrath are taught together by people who have actually been called for that purpose. I don't know what ditches go undug while you occupy a pulpit, but we need ditches too.
I don't know where you are. I would to find your church. Yours is the kind of church I would love to be in.
We live in Sioux Center, IA.
Attend Eastside Baptist in Sioux Falls.
How I long for that old time preaching.
His church is a room in his house, no one attends but his family.
Is this nut still in the Sioux Falls area?
Which King James version of the bible are you guys referring to? The original or the new serving with crispy conservative interpretations since the old KJV was too liberal?
Yes, Travistine, he is in sioux falls daily but lives outside of town. Btw know ye not that the spiritual man is supposed judge all things ICor 2:15. Also, it appears that you have made several judgements about the preacher, however incorrect, you are an hyprocrite sir. Matthew 24:51
What? Where'd this come from?
Lydia, I'm fine with judging. I maintain my judgment that Tod Phillips is preaching selfish, power-hungry male chauvinism and disrespect dressed up in bad theology. Is Pastor Tod still preaching that bad theology around Sioux Falls?
When I see a sinful man standing out in front of another Christian church bashing them because they do not follow the same religious cult-like IFB mentality that they do I will defend my faith. I can go on for days verse for verse and battle the brain-washed IFB mentality. It is destructive and evil. There is no grace or love involved with the IFB religion. I didn't see it at the time when I was involved in it but I'm so thankful that my prayers for wisdom were answered and my Lord and Savior led me and my family out of that horrible cult-like religion. We serve an amazing God and it's sad that people like Todd Philips go around doing the devils work. Bring on the comments let's debate some theology shall we.....
Travistene...what is there to dicuss? you have a different god...baal. Also, I see u can't spell Saviour correctly, you must use a perverted text. You are a judgmental hyprocrite..and your judgment is preverted....I suppose you go to one of the harlot churches...
rock n roll church or baby baptism
Oh my, this has turned into something very nasty.
Be careful Lydia about throwing stones; you did not spell "you" correctly, you used "u."
it's called a tablet...abbrevations my dear Watson....
I seem 2 remember David threw stones as well...
"U" is not a word; it is a letter and a lazy text way of spelling "you."
When some guys wanted Jesus to throw stones to kill a woman they accused of being a prostitute, Jesus did not pick up any stones, nor threw stones. What was it that he said?
Today at 2:14 PM
My God is none other than Jesus Christ who died on the cross to forgive us of our sins so that we may be forgiven. I am a sinner and I am saved by grace. There is no works or religion that I can rely on to save myself, not the translation of Bible I use, not the cloths I wear, not the church I go to and so on. None of these things will redeem me in the eyes of our God. The IFB folks place a higher priority on the institution of worship than the Savior for which that institution was created. In the end it always ends up the same. Lives filled with pain and misery trying to live a life of works to satisfy a God who has already paid the price for our sins. Look at all of the IFB's fallen hero's such as Jack Hyles, Jack Schaap and the list goes on and on and on. I am not a hypocrite I am openly critical of the IFB church to anyone that cares to debate it. I have walked the walk, talked the talk and held leadership positions in the IFB church. I know the innermost workings of the group, it's lies, and twisted theology right down to the screaming and foot stomping at the pulpit. I am not bitter, I did not leave because I wanted my ear tickled, I left because once I started reading studying what they were teaching I notices a great number of discrepancies within the IFB church and its practices. As a family we prayed and asked for wisdom and guidance, literally day and night, for over two years before we finally left the IFB church. It was the best decision we ever made. As I said I'm not bitter, as is often said in IFB services about people like me :) I feel very sad for the folks that are stuck in that mess, especially for their children. I do not have the same sympathy however for loudmouth know-it-all fundamentalists who attack other Christians with the narcissistic mentality that they were the only ones that God was nice enough to grant ultimate knowledge of proper theology and scripture. Sorry, don't buy it. And no I don't go to one of the Harlot churches. I go to a church that teaches salvation through the grace of Jesus Christ. We don't have a check list with little boxes that get checked off in order to qualify to be a good Christian and be worthy of God's grace. All are welcome to come worship and learn about our wonderful Lord and Savior.
P.S. I'm curious, is the typing error thing a means of lashing out from behind the keyboard. Really! It's so petty.
jeni u r brilliant....and what does that have to do with price of tea in China....u r petty my dear girl... travistene...u spelled Saviour wrong on purpose because u must use a perverted bible or u r ignorant ...probably the latter and probably on purpose.....u can't worship God except in spirit and in truth...if u don't have the truth poor boy, you r not worshipping the God of the bible...and for Jeni's sake, I will abbreviate just for fun. I do have other matters to attend to, so if you don't mind, I shall end my speaking for now....btw PTL
Lydia or should I say Lisa, I agree with you 100% in your statement regarding worshiping in spirit and truth. That is something we believe and practice daily. I'm not sure which God you are referring to Lisa. The God that I worship is the one that was crucified, died and rose again so that we may stand blameless at the throne of judgement. Is there any other. Let's face it we both worship the same Christ. The only difference is that you have been so indoctrinated into the IFB church that you have taken a stance that unless someone acts like you, thinks like you and speaks like you they are unable to obtain the grace of God. A perfect example of this is your stance on the KJV only. Don't get me wrong. It's a great translation of the word of God. I use it daily in my biblical studies however I also use the NLT which has also been a wonderful resource for study. One of the defining moments in my realization that the KJV only stance was flawed was while we were attending our former IFB church. One of the former missionaries to Japan had received all kinds of accolades for translating the King James version into a Japanese KJV. Oh how the church thought this was such an accomplishment. Coincidently we had access to a Japanese foreign exchange teacher at the time and I asked him to review this new translation along with a couple of his friends. It was amazingly similar to the NIV or NLT. In the Japanese language/text there was no way to create a formal equivalence version of the KJV. By your standards I guess the Japanese (and any other foreign speaker) are just…..out of luck. I guess God only wanted English speaking folk to be saved? Scripture refutes this mentality over and over throughout the text. Something that really helped me understand this was an in-depth study of the creation of the KJV, the Scottish King that rose to the throne of England and the scribes commission to provide the translation. Very interesting study. In my 40+ years in the IFB church never once was a study offered on the creation of the KJV. Wonder why? Although not a big fan of James White, if you get a chance check out his debate with fundamentalist pastor Jack Moorman on Youtube. See how you interpret the debate. I doubt you'll watch it as I am fully aware that you'll feel like you are sinning. Well anyway fun debating and best wishes. Time to get some work done around the house.
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