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Facing Trial November 13-14, Bosworth Axes Spokesman; Haber Calls Libs About AG Bid

Annette Bosworth has just walked out of her second hearing at the Hughes County Courthouse. The judge has set November 13 –14 as the failed GOP Senate candidate's trial date for twelve counts of perjury and filing a false oath. The court will hold a motions hearing on September 2.

Brandon Taliaferro, Bosworth's attorney, has issued this statement on behalf of his client:

My client is fully committed to defending the charges filed against her. Dr. Bosworth is no longer associated with her former spokesman Mr. Stranahan. He does not speak for her, he does not speak for her defense and he does not speak for me. This case will be tried in a court of law, not the court of public opinion [Brandon Taliaferro, press release, 2014.07.15].

Lee Stranahan received at least $5,000 from the Bosworth for Senate campaign. The itinerant conservative Texas blogger figured prominently in extending the media circus surrounding Bosworth's arrest and initial response to the formal charges from Attorney General Marty Jackley.

Update 11:54 CDT: In related news, Bob Newland of the South Dakota Libertarian Party informs this blog that both Bosworth and her husband Chad Haber called him last night "to let me know that Chad intended to attend the SDLP convention, and to ask for our nomination of him to the ballot for AG. Chad asked me not to distribute that for general consumption until after Annette's hearing in Pierre today."

Hmm... if Haber thought that announcing his candidacy might have some negative impact on today's hearing in Pierre, maybe Haber should consider keeping his political ambitions in check until after the entire trial is done.

91 Comments

  1. Rocky Racoon 2014.07.15

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....(breath).....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH.....oh my, i'm in tears.

    Bye Lee.

  2. Bill Dithmer 2014.07.15

    "Too Late For Love"

    Somewhere in the distance I hear the bells ring
    Darkness settles on the town as the children start to sing
    The lady 'cross the street she shuts out the night
    There's a cast of thousands waiting as she turns out the light

    But it's too late, too late, too late
    Too late for love
    Yes it's too late too late, too late
    Too late for love

    Not to bad for a Tuesday afternoon. Def Leppard, an announced court date for the Bos, and my grandbabies are comming to see us.

    I believe an adult beverage is in orde.

    The Blindman

  3. Flipper 2014.07.15

    Ah yes, another one bites the dust. Sooner or later it happens to everyone associated with Channette.

  4. Joe K 2014.07.15

    I went to dakotareporter.com to see if Lee has any posts on this, and what did I see? Account suspended. I am beginning to see a pattern here. Even giveemheckannette.com is suspended... LOL

  5. Rocky Racoon 2014.07.15

    In the case of the latter, it's probably for non-payment.

  6. Joe K 2014.07.15

    Wouldn't ya know it, but even helphealhunger.org is suspended... Looks like Lee was a little bit more involved with Annette's campaign than he has let on...

  7. Jerry 2014.07.15

    The sky seems a lot more clear today and I have a spring in my step. Could it be that there is one less asshat to contend with? Methinks that is so...at least for now, but like horror movies, he could come back. Now if Mr. Sibson would follow suit, I would be a happy feller.

  8. daleb 2014.07.15

    does that mean lee is done spamming

  9. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.15

    Joe, I'm able to access giveemheckannette.com. Any suspension may have been a temporary glitch.

  10. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    Note that Bosworth's attorney did not say anything about Lee still being a spokesmen for Chad.

  11. SD Teacher 2014.07.15

    My esteem for Annette's defense attorney just rose considerably.

  12. Joe K 2014.07.15

    Sorry to hijack the comments, and get a bit off topic here... I see them all online again... must have been a temporary customer service issue.

  13. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.15

    Roger, that's a relevant observation. But then notice that Taliaferro is representing Bosworth as an attorney in a criminal trial. Haber's business dealings are not in his portfolio... at least not until Marty Jackley brings the same felony perjury charges against Haber for swearing a false circulator's oath.

  14. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.15

    SDTeacher, Mr. Taliaferro has a very difficult job with a very difficult client.

  15. Jenny 2014.07.15

    This is funny. Bye Lee, we won't miss you.

  16. grudznick 2014.07.15

    My granddaughter's friend was laughing about this and said:

    Lee was a Texan out of New Orleans.
    He traveled with the carnival shows.
    He ran bumper cars, smoked cheap cigars,
    and he candied up his nose.

    Not sure what all that means but I am still sure that Mr. Stranahan's arms were mighty stumpy. Stumpy enough he probably has trouble buckling his own belt.

  17. Tara Volesky 2014.07.15

    Why isn't anybody talking about Clayton Walker. Enough of Annette and Lee. If Chad get's the nomination, I am sure he will help the other candidates expose the EB-5 and the Mette case along with other things. Hope he is not afraid to bring it.

  18. grudznick 2014.07.15

    Who is Clayton Walker, Ms. V?

  19. grudznick 2014.07.15

    Mr. Stranahan and young Dr. Bos have eloped to Oacoma where they plan to raise semi-urban chickens.

  20. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.15

    Tara, weren't you listening? Chad Haber won't help anyone but himself.

    And Tara, this blog has talked about Clayton Walker. Toby dissected the criminal complaint against Walker in detail the same day Bosworth's came out. Clayton Walker will be a fellow felon, wearing stripes alongside Annette Bosworth. But challengers and the law stopped him before he could get on the ballot and make waves. He didn't trick voters and donors. He lacks the wherewithal to wage any major nationwide fundraising scheme. Walker and Bosworth are both bumblers, but Bosworth is smarter, less restrained, and has managed to do more damage.

  21. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    Tara,
    ClaytonWalker had enough sense to keep him mouth shut.
    He wasn't out performing circus acts with the media and our political system.
    Like Cory said, he was stopped before he could fleece the pockets of naive blind followers.

  22. Rorschach 2014.07.15

    Taliaferro probably gave heckannette an ultimatum. Either Stranahan goes or he goes.

    Thanks Bill Dithmer for reminding me of my favorite Def Leppard song. Now I'm leaving here to listen to it.

  23. Joe K 2014.07.15

    I don't think Chad running will help expose anything. It will just add to the circus that we have been watching unfold for some time now.

  24. Tara Volesky 2014.07.15

    Bill Janklow wasn't exactly a choir boy. Joe, we need a circus, maybe then people will watch.

  25. daleb 2014.07.15

    haber n boz have a long track record of not doing the right thing. i cannot figure out why intelligent people make the logic leap that haber n boz will expose corruption in sd. they are part of it.

  26. Lee Stranahan 2014.07.15

    [I told you before, Lee: if you want to advertise your Web products, you pay for advertising space. —CAH]

  27. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    If this isn't a story Lee, why was it necessary for Bosworth's to very pointedly state you are not her spokesman? It seemed to me that he had some concern.

    Are you still Chad Haber's spokesmen?

  28. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    My comment should have read "why was it necessary for Bosworth's attorney to very pointedly .........."

  29. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    Are you still Chad's spokesman/campaign manager?
    [edited]

  30. Joe K 2014.07.15

    What a pointless video that just adds to the circus I mentioned earlier. Tara, we do not need a circus, especially from folks like these. They are just doing whatever they can for attention. We need to see the results of the federal investigation into EB5. Brandon T. may just want to place a call to the U.S. Department of Justice’s Public Integrity Section that was mentioned in Mikes comment above, if he feels that it would be benificial. What we don't need people that are making a mockery of our election process like what we are seeing from Boz, Haber, and Stranahan.

  31. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    [edited]

    Are you still Chad Haber's spokesmen/campaign manager?

  32. Joe K 2014.07.15

    Lee: I call em as I see em, brah.

  33. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.15

    No, Tara. Not this circus. Destructive. Wasteful.

  34. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    Lee, I hope your not driving while typing, that's against the law in SD and dangerous.
    Sorry for the labels, I thought my question was a simple yes or not answer.
    If you're neither Chad's spokesman or campaign manager, what is your capacity in Chad's unannounced candidacy for attorney general?

  35. Steve Hickey 2014.07.15

    These people are sociopaths. They have no business in public life. She needs her medical license reviewed in light of obvious irrational behaviors and serious breaches of ethics and integrity involving money, violations of public trust, scams and treatment of former employees and patients.

  36. Tara Volesky 2014.07.15

    I wish Myers and Hubbel would get one tenth the attention that you are giving these guys. Cory, if you want them to go away, don't write about them. I am upset that we have not heard whether Jason and Marty are going to put Lora on the ballot. New Rules......maybe not, she is a Republican. The Law....yes they do have to put her on.

  37. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.15

    Tara,

    Why don't you start a blog, seriously?
    On my Facebook page I follow Weiland, Robinson, Myers and a few others. I have yet to receive anything of substance from Mike Myers
    If people are going to run for office, it is their responsiblity to get their message out there, we shouldn't have to go searching for candidates positions.

  38. Tara Volesky 2014.07.15

    Thanks Roger,
    I am putting together a 12 town tour Governor/LG debates. It is so hard to get media attention being an Independent, but we are trying. Lora will be out in the Rapid area this weekend and Mike will in in the Viborg parade on Sat. It's tough when we don't have a Daugaard War Chest. lol. Would people read a blog? This is tough without much support from mainstream media.

  39. grudznick 2014.07.15

    Mr. Jim, in the 60's I was a little leery of drummers in general. My other good friend Bob could explain better than I. But I wonder if you are thinking that this Mr. Stranahan fellow may be a descendant of this drummer of whom you speak. If his grand pappy was a stumpy that would explain the arm thing with Mr. Stranahan.

  40. Emmett 2014.07.15

    Roger- I've been bugging Mike over and over about putting stuff on his website and online. Coming from his generation, it's reasonable that he can't keep up with the speed of the internet.. hopefully he gets the info flowing faster, because he's a hell of a candidate and people need to hear from him! I wouldn't hold it against him necessarily though, because a statewide campaign needs a WHOLE TEAM to be competitive. He and Lora should have regular email blasts like the other candidates (2-3 times per week minimum) and daily facebook/twitter posts. A blog portion on the website updated at least once a week would be nice too, highlighting a policy position or campaign activity. A campaign can't be a one-man show to get attention from the media and voters, but that's generally the struggle for Independents. If you like Mike, please considering contacting his campaign and volunteering!

  41. Emmett 2014.07.15

    Tara- you know I admire you and love working with you, and know that you're pulling serious weight for Mike to have a shot. Kudos to all that you do.. but when it comes to Chad, seriously, I'm not on the same page... Chad's candidacy allow the media to continue to distract voters. He will barely be able to get a prime time news piece on the mette case or corruption because the media will be eating him up for Boz's failed campaign and laundry list of accusations/controversies etc. I'm all for calling out the corruption and crimes of the one-party establishment, and I'm going to fight every day until the election!! I'm confident we will get a full slate of qualified candidates this year, including an AG candidate whose actually an attorney, and candidates with experience and talent. Keep up the good work with Mike, and wish us luck at the Libertarian convention. Whether or not you're registered libertarian you're welcome to attend because it's open to the public (but only Libertarian party members will be able to cast votes for nominees).

  42. grudznick 2014.07.15

    Ms. V, where will that Ms. Hubbel lady be in Rapid this weekend? If you are trying so hard to get her on the public maw you should at least tell me where I need to catch a ride to. Will she be downtown on Saturday? At the ice rink or one of those heathen places? Where in Rapid City is Lora?

    If you can't take Mr. H's free opportunity to publicize this outing, to my old feeble brain then either you are still making it up as you go or you are lying.

    Lee, were have you posted with your stumpy arms your most recent Dr. Bos pictures?

  43. Emmett 2014.07.15

    Tara-- you are right, I hope Cory covers the Mike/Lora situation and gets a response from the SOS. This needs an answer. Keep bugging him, keep sending press releases, and keep putting Lora out there. If she's who you want on the ballot then push on all fronts to make sure she is.

  44. grudznick 2014.07.15

    Emmett, I like your name. Bit o' dwarf in ya?

  45. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.16

    Emmett
    I've only seen limited coverage of the positions Mike and Lora have taken and truthfully couldn't say I know enough to support them. I'm a active Democrat and an issues voter.
    You have to be very pragmatic when it comes to politics, numbers matter and keeping options open is essential to beating Republicans in this state.
    it is up to the candidate and their campaign staff to get the message out, it is not up to the media to report what you think should be reported.
    The long and short of it is that I've worked a lot of campaigns starting in 1968, some we, some we lost, and I learned from each one of them.
    I no longer volunteer, my knowledge is valuable and I will not squander it.

  46. Tara Volesky 2014.07.16

    Grudz, I wouldn't lie to you. She is going to a common core meeting and also meeting with some tea partiers. You need to go and hang out with them. lol. She has the schedule but it is 12:42 am and I am not going to bug her now. Just email her lorahubbel@yahoo.com or fb message her. Go to one of the events and I want to hear your thoughts from a real liby on Madville Times. And don't come back as a convert tea bagger. lol She is also going to try and get an interview with RCJ. Tried getting a hold of Joe O'sullivan at Seattle Times. Very curious to find out what happened.

  47. Tara Volesky 2014.07.16

    Emmett, you can post whatever you want on Mike's page. We need to get that 8 thousand he has in his bank account into his campaign. Better yet, I wish he would mortgage his house.

  48. Craig 2014.07.16

    Lee: "As I discussed publicly on twitter last night, neither BT or AB have anything to do with my reporting on important stories like the Mette case."

    If only he bothered to do some actual reporting rather than just repeating what has already been said on this blog and elsewhere. All we have seen from Stranahan thus far is a Carsonesque "more to come" bumper in practically every other comment, but without any substance.

    Lee: "I've never called myself either of those things [spokesmen/campaign manager] on relation to Chad."

    Well if that isn't evading the subject I don't know what is. It would seem Mr. Stranahan is most likely collecting a paycheck from Haber which explains his behavior and loyalty. He might not be a "campaign manager" or "spokesperson" but he is likely a paid consultant in some fashion... otherwise known as an opportunist.

    When the checks stop - (or likely bounce) - I'm sure we won't hear anything more from Stranahan. I'm not optimistic about his promises of blowing the lid off of corruption either, because thus far his idea of journalism seems to be repeating what others have said previously while taking credit for "breaking" the story. If he had even a tenth of the investigative journalist skills he purports to hold, he wouldn't be associated with Bosworth or Haber.

  49. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    If I could find a morsel of pity for a lawyer,then it would go to Taliaferro who has the unenviable job of keeping Bosworth's pie hole shut until November. For her own good she should be put in a medically induced coma.

  50. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.16

    Coma would be a bit drastic. However, an intervention by friends and family and a petition for involuntary committal might be in order.

  51. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    Involuntary commital would lead to her having to be restrained and then she would foam at the mouth while wearing a strait-jacket so I believe a coma would be less messy and more humane. Her lawyer is not going to be able to learn her anything useful before the trial anyway,I'm guessing.

  52. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    Lee, I think they're saying that Ms. Bosworth is three or four french fries shy of a happy meal.

  53. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.16

    Lee continues to evades my questions, they were straight forward and would only a require a yes or not answer.
    I'm thinking that he is now embarrassed to be associated with Haber and his inane attempt to run for attorney general and can't find a legitimate way out from the political chaos he has created for Bosworth and Haber.

  54. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    So why gripe to Bill or Roger?

  55. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    I'm no fan of Bosworth or Stranahan, but I have to agree, I don't think joking about drugging or committing the woman are cool at all. She's made poor decisions and probably needs some counseling, but that's her business- especially now that she's no longer running for office. Her attorney has done a very good job of reintroducing her to the role of private citizen and although the resolution of her criminal charges is still of public interest, these comments seem out of line.

  56. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    SDTeacher, I'm not joking. I think Bosworth needs to seek psychiatric help. And further, when one's behavior presents a danger to one's self and others (as has Bosworth's), it becomes everyone's business. Coincidentally, her admitting to mental illness may also be her best legal defense.

  57. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    Bill,
    With all due respect, mental illness is not a defense to criminal charges. It may mitigate sentencing, but unless she's legally insane, it is not a defense. Further, in SD, you must specifically plead insanity, which she has not done. With regard to committing a person, the law does not contemplate theoretical danger, it contemplates a risk of imminent physical harm to self or others. There is no evidence whatsoever that she poses such a risk.

    Involuntary commitment locks a person in a mental health ward against their will. If you want to impose that type of detention on another citizen, you need to have a bit more evidence than a few goofy press conferences and a penchant for swindling your supporters.

  58. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.16

    We have a documented medical diagnosis of mental health problems. We have evidence of refusing sound legal advice. We have evidence of failing to act in the best interest of family, business, patients, and children. We have narcissism and manic behavior morphing into seemingly unstable paranoia and delusion.

    Committal, voluntary or involuntary, could be the healthiest course for this poor woman and her family. It would also be a brilliant tactic to delay that November trail.

  59. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    Points taken SDTeacher. Even so, it is precisely for those reasons that we have to wait for people with severe mental illness to commit some horrible atrocity before we are willing to acknowledge the profound depth of their debilitating and threatening mental disorder. I don't know what the legal answer is, but I don't think it's out of line for people to point out the nature of the problem in a blog.

  60. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.16

    Like Bill, I'm not joking.

    SDTeacher does make a good point about demonstrating physical risk to justify involuntary committal. To flesh out the statement, let's look at SDCL 27A-1-2:

    "27A-1-2. Involuntary commitment. A person is subject to involuntary commitment if:
    (1) The person has a severe mental illness;
    (2) Due to the severe mental illness, the person is a danger to self or others or has a chronic disability; and
    (3) The person needs and is likely to benefit from treatment."

    Key words: severe and chronic disability. Can sociopathy cross the threshold of chronic disability?

  61. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    p.s. as it stands, Bosworth is in line to be locked into prison against her will as a consequence of her behavior. I submit that being treated for mental disorder may be a better course for her, and for that matter, perhaps as many of half of the people currently in prison without benefit of proper psychiatric care.

  62. lesliengland 2014.07.16

    key words-danger to self or others-determined in commitment hearing

  63. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    I'm a little surprised at you guys. You're seriously talking about allowing the government to preemptively detain a person? Good Lord. Can you imagine how the powers that be in this state would abuse such a power? In practice it is relatively easy, even under the statutory standards to get someone locked up- the only real constraint is the county's willingness to pay for the involuntary commitment. I shudder to think what we'd have going on from a due process or a budgetary standpoint if we started locking up every person with bipolar disorder on the theory that they're annoying and poor decision makers.

    I agree Bill that she would be better served by proper medication and psychiatric treatment than prison. The fact is that since she's a middle class white woman who committed a white collar crime, that's what she'll get. If she was actually poor and/or a minority, regardless of the CJUS reforms, the state would find a way to send her butt to prison.

  64. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    If Bosworth isn't living in La-La Land,then she is Academy Award worthy. Any shrink worth his salt could have her commited just by observing her behavior in the past 6 months or so. Nothing is her fault. She can't read and comprehend fairly simple legal details on nomination forms. Her children can't help but grow up delusional like she is. She doesn't pay her bills or employees. How many alarms need to go off before someone pays attention?

  65. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    Yup, good points, SDTeacher. That's the conundrum in a nutshell. And why prison reform and a new social outlook on mental illness will be difficult at best.

  66. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    Mike, so now we should commit people who are self centered, illiterate, obtuse or spendthrifts?

    Wow, the list of detained is really growing here and I get the impression that there are thousands, if not millions who meet this criteria. I feel like I went down the rabbit hole and landed at Glenn Beck's website or maybe Rush...

    She's annoying and either stupid or intentionally obtuse, she's unethical and she set women and children back by her candidacy. All bad things, but involuntary mental commitment? Really?

  67. student 2014.07.16

    CAH,
    Sociopath does not meet the burden unless they have stated a plan to hurt themselves or others

  68. Bill Fleming 2014.07.16

    We have to work to remove the social stigma so people who have mental illness can and will seek help voluntarily without fear of financial and/or social ruin. I'm not advocating for mind police, but rather social compassion for the mentally ill as a means of social protection.

  69. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    I absolutely agree with you Bill. Mental illness should be seen and treated in the same manner we treat all illnesses, and people should not have to fear being honest with themselves, their physicians and others when they are suffering.

    Can you imagine how calls for institutionalizing people who aren't a risk of immediate harm might adversely affect the pursuit of such goals? If it is true, as someone indicated above, that "every good psychiatrist worth his salt" could get someone like Bosworth involuntarily committed, and worse, would try to, then why in heavens name would anyone ever admit to their problems and seek help?

    Perhaps if we didn't use mental health treatment as punishment, or use language like "crazy" "loon" and "wackjob" to describe people we disagree with, then those who are ill would be more willing and able to take their meds and see their doctors regularly. Such preventative care would help us detect when people need medication adjustments or more intensive therapy before things get out of hand.

    Last thought- many of those who are incarcerated have a diagnosed mental illness. When they are out of custody, they often can't afford their meds and when they are in custody, they often have to fight to get them. If their mental illness is such that it keeps them from controlling their behavior, then it would be in society's best interest to ensure that they always have access to medication and regular appointments.

  70. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    I can see it now-Bosworth driving down the road with kids in vehicle and she could easily be sending text messages and having a terrible accident,due to short attention span and then her friends wave a newspaper report ,with the Condie Rice in the headlights look when she waived that August PDB that said terrorists were gonna hijack planes and fly them into buildings in the USA,and Boz' friends will say who knew she would do this. SDTeacher,what if I'm right? Wasn't she ordered to undergo tests and basically told them to flip off?

  71. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    Mike, I think the risk of bad things happening is one that is inherent in a free society. We don't (or at least we shouldn't) lock people up based on their opponents' prediction that they might do some harm in the future or based on a vague allegation that they are "crazy." Such a philosophy has nothing to do with the basic human rights we purport to embrace as a country. There have been times in history where we have infringed people's liberty on the basis of such judgments and predictions and in the end, we tend to regret those decisions. I tend to err on the side of taking the risk in order to preserve the liberty.

    And just FYI, mentally ill is not = violent. There are millions who suffer from mental illness who are not dangerous. It is more likely than not that if she is mentally ill, Bosworth is not violent or dangerous.

  72. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    Teacher-you do know the state takes Indian children from homes on less anecdotal evidence. Our gubmint disappeared people just because. I guess we'll agree to disagree.

  73. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    Mike, I don't understand how the state's terrible track record with American Indians justifies a looser policy on involuntary commitment. Indeed, it would seem to justify better oversight and less discretion.

  74. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    We weren't talking policy-just this one specific case. Wasn't it you who said we don't or shouldn't lock people up based......? As for Bosworth,she has me convinced she is a danger and like I said we'll agree to disagree.

  75. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    I see. I didn't realize the Stranahan rules of discussion applied:

    1) Don't like the topic? Throw out a red herring. (Stranahan- didn't like Annette's probable guilt, threw out the Mette case. Mike, don't like the topic of involuntary commitment, throw out abuse and neglect enforcement).

    2) Don't like the law? Twist it to fit Annette's case. (Stranahan- it doesn't matter if she is obviously guilty based on the letter of the law and her confessions, she should be found not guilty because she's special. Mike, it doesn't matter if she clearly doesn't meet the criteria for involuntary commitment, we should do it anyway, because she's special).

    Can't argue with that (il)logic.

  76. mike from iowa 2014.07.16

    Stuff it,buddy. What a low blow.

  77. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.16

    *****tweeeet! ref runs on the field*****

    Sorry, Mike—SD Teacher delivers no low blow. The comparison to Bosworth-Haber's spokesman/henchman is apt. No matter how eager we are to stop Chad and Annette from harming anyone else (and they have done harm), we must not fall into exaggerations or misreadings of law. SDTeacher appropriately points out that involuntary committal has some stiff requirements, and for good reason: the state should deny no one their liberty lightly, not even Bosworth. I agree that she has a sociopath's disregard for anyone's well-being but her own, but we lack the legal grounds and evidence to justify immediate imprisonment in a mental health facility.

    The mention of Indian children doesn't help: as SDTeacher says, rather than supporting further unjust use of state power, that mention only emphasizes the need for stricter rules and oversight of that use of state power.

    Furthermore, the hypothetical of driving down the road with the kids while distracted does not weigh in favor of committal... or if it did, it would put all of us in Yankton. We need to stick with real actions, real violations of law, real harm... or uniquely harmful and imminent threats.

    It is a low blow to liken anyone to Stranahan. But if we slip into using his tactics, we have it coming. We all must strive to be better and truer than him.

    *****tweeeet! Game on! ref runs off field*****

  78. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.16

    There have been some horrible things that the state has done in the placement of Indian children into unfamiliar and unsafe environments, that has been established.

    I'm starting to resent using Indian children as political pawns as Stranahan has done and some here on Madville do. Are the cases of abuse being used only to bring down Jackley or is therea rational and pragmatic way to put the welfare of the children first?

  79. SDTeacher 2014.07.16

    "is there a rational and pragmatic way to put the welfare of the children first?"

    A fantastic question. I think there are a few really great starting points:

    1) Legitimately train DSS workers (not just lip service) to respect and understand the difference between abuse and neglect and genuine cultural differences. Too many social workers think that if a home doesn't look like theirs, then something is wrong with the parents. Not necessarily so.
    2) Tighten up the definition of neglect so that it stops being used as a catchall to remove kids from homes of parents who the DSS workers don't like or understand.
    3) Hire American Indian social workers and and district attorneys and appoint or elect American Indian judges.
    4) Get rid of the fake experts in ICWA cases and bring in people that that actually understand tribal culture.
    5) Start respecting tribal jurisdiction.

    For starters.

  80. Joe K 2014.07.16

    The sad thing about the Mette case, is that plea deals like that happen all of the time. My wife used to teach at children's home (while daugaard was director and lt gov) - and the stories are horrific and not unique to the Mette case. To use abused kids for political gain is about as low as you can go. Now, the one thing you never hear from stranahan is how that plea deal was approved by the judge. That is where the real blame lies in the sentence that was handed down to Mette. The judge could have easily rejected the deal. I could go on about things that Dss have done, but one thing that needs to be said - this is not unique to Lakota children. Things like this happens to all kinds of kids.

    What needs to be done first is mandatory sentencing. You touch a kid in a bad way, minimum prison term 10 years. Write a part of the law where you go to jail until that kid is 18 at the very least. Abuse a 3 year old? Minimum 15. Then the child can at least not worry about dealing with their abuser for the rest of their childhood.

  81. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.16

    SDTeacher and JoeK.

    Thank you for your meaningful contributions, this is the discussion we should be having about DSS, Mette, and the South Dakota judicial system.
    There are many things that can be done and should be done to stop or stem the abuse of children. Every case that involve Indian children should automatically be up for judicial review.
    Maybe the next time Cory makes up his legislative wish list, this item could be included. Cory may have included it in his previous list, I'm not sure.

  82. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.07.16

    Roger, alas, we did not have an Indian child welfare bill in our blog wish list this year. We should next year. When I'm elected, Roger, remind me to talk to you about appointing you as my tribal affairs liaison.

    We should most definitely be having a discussion about DSS, Mette, and the UJS. And that discussion should be entirely separate from the discussion of the Annette Bosworth trial.

  83. Roger Cornelius 2014.07.16

    Cory,
    When you're elected I'd much prefer that you appoint me God, someone needs set Sibson straight.

    And, you have to promise that when you pull your campaign together, you do not hire Lee Stranahan as a spokesman, campaign manager, consultant or whatever the hell is. Promise?

  84. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.07.16

    I'm 95% in agreement with Teacher and Bill. I'd like to see Child Protection investigate Chanette's parenting. Some close monitoring and parenting classes would be good. My biggest concern is the way their children are being used to further their parents' poor behavior.

    As Bill said, Mental illness is just Illness that affects one's brain. There is a website for the organization Make It Okay, that works to remove the stigma. Check it out.

  85. Tara Volesky 2014.07.17

    Roger, by putting the welfare of the children first, the cover-ups of the state that the media is hiding from us needs to be exposed. It's unfortunate the only media outlet to expose the abuses of these children was NPR and Cory. There are hundreds of cases throughout SD that go unnoticed. There are also abuses with ICWA such as the Boes case and the 3 Angels that the Governor, Tribal Council, US Senators and our US Representative refuse to deal with. The SD Animal abuse laws are taken more seriously than the children of SD. Cory has reported on this a few times and had Shirley Schwab's video on. It would be nice to get an interview with Brandon Taliaferro. He will blow your mine with information. That's why it cannot be emphasized enough that mainstreem media, our Congress men and woman, the state of SD and some Tribal Councils should be ashamed of themselves for not protecting the children of SD. I don't care who Lee Stranahan is friends with or if he's getting paid, and I don't care about his past. I think it is commendable that he is helping to tell the story of how the SD political machine operates.

  86. JeniW 2014.07.17

    What seems to be missing in this discussion, but I maybe I have failed to see it, is the child's perspective. Most children love, or have a strong bond with their parents or care takers, no matter if the parents are wonderful, or are parents from hell.

    I loved my father until I reached the age of 15. I loved my "daddy," until I started to deal with the reality that my father loved the alcohol more than he loved me. It was a painful process to end my emotional bond with my father. It was a grieving process very similar to if he had physically died during my childhood.

    Putting parents in jail and/or otherwise punishing the parents does not mean children automatically stop loving, or no longer have that strong bond. Or, when they are removed from what they have known as their home, means that the emotional ties are cut.

    If we really are looking out "for the best interest of the children," we need to also look at things from their perspective rather than focusing on the parents.

    Protecting children from abuse is a must, but let's also focus on the emotional needs of the children, and provide them with whatever it takes to cope.

  87. Tara Volesky 2014.07.17

    The DSS and ICWA needs to be managed by people not politicians. I don't trust Federal, State or Tribal government.

  88. mike from iowa 2014.07.17

    Cory-in iowa a shrink can have someone involuntarily commited if the shrink feels a person might cause harm. They suggest a person get help or else. I was not aware that i approved of the state's taking away Indian children,only that I pointed out that they do and with less evidence against parents than Bosworth has shown. It may be comparing apples to oranges,but it certainly wasn't obfuscation-Stranahan style,imho.

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