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Olson Captures New Noem ‘Do — Loch Ness Next?

Last updated on 2012.04.14

This just in from surprise guest correspondent Russell Olson: Congresswoman Kristi Noem may have a new haircut!

Rep. Kristi Noem, Lincoln Day Dinner, Madison, South Dakota, April 9, 2012. Photo by Russell Olson, Wentworth
Rep. Kristi Noem speaks at Lake County Lincoln Day Dinner, Madison, SD, April 9, 2012. Photo by State Senator Russell Olson.

The Congresswoman spoke at tonight's GOP Lincoln Day Dinner in Madison. Don't blame Russ for the fuzzy photo: the lighting at Nicky's is atrocious. But from what I can make out, either Noem is sporting a hasty ponytail, or she's followed the example of her predecessor, Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, and ditching the long locks for her re-election campaign.

Note the poster looming over Noem's shoulder. That's GOP candidate for Public Utilities Commission Kristie Fiegen. Great: now we have a Kristie and a Kristi on the ballot, and they both have short hair! Shouldn't the school superintendents be writing one of the candidates and telling her to grow her hair back or change her name or just quit so as not to confuse the voters?

Oops: I just checked Russ's snap of Fiegen from this evening's festivities: it looks like she is growing her hair out. But now neither Kristi(e) looks like her campaign poster! Arrgghh!!!

Next up from Olson: grainy images of plesiosaurs in Lake Madison... or maybe the Wentworth Sasquatch!

p.s.: Public Utilities Commissioner and candidate Chris Nelson still hasn't grown his mustache back. I'm telling you, Chris: that mustache would have won you darn near enough votes in West River whisker country to have beaten Noem in the 2010 primary!

Kristi Noem, 2007 Legislature mug shot
Kristi Noem, 2007 Legislature mug shot

Update 2012.04.14 09:06 MDT: The new 'do is really the old 'do, as attested by Noem's 2007 South Dakota Legislature mug shot.

Update 09:38 MDT: Congresswoman Noem tweets her own profile pic of her haircut, from Friday's visit to the Hot Springs Veterans Administration hospital, where Noem expressed her support for government-run health care. No word on whether the hospital provides its vets with good haircuts.

88 Comments

  1. Stan Gibilisco 2012.04.09

    I don't care what the outside of Kristi Noem's head looks like. I do care what goes on inside that head.

  2. Nick Nemec 2012.04.09

    Nothing Stan, nothing at all.

  3. mike 2012.04.09

    Good one Stan! Good one!

    As a John Thune supporter I cannot figure out what is going on in Noem's head half the time either. I don't think it is nothing but I do think it is calculating and full of lies to South Dakotan's.

    I like Daugaard, Thune, Rounds and most other GOPers except I cannot stand Kristi Noem.

  4. mike 2012.04.09

    Why would olson tweet a pic that blurry?

  5. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.09

    For the same reason that I'd blog it? (I don't know if that's good or not!)

  6. Nick Abraham 2012.04.09

    Mr. Noem informed us the new "do" is four days old.. sadly, she gave another lack luster speech. Not even surprised anymore.

  7. Troy Jones 2012.04.10

    This seems sexist to discuss and bringing up a stache doesn't mitigate the perception.

  8. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.10

    Oh, Troy, I know there's no mitigating your perceptions. But I always chuckle at your selective sensitivities.

  9. Troy Jones 2012.04.10

    I criticized DWC comments about SHS style matters too.

  10. Rorschach 2012.04.10

    Word has it they are going to use the hair trimmed from Kristi to make Marco Rubio a new rug.

  11. D.E. Bishop 2012.04.10

    Troy, what Stace commented is called a "Gotcha" that you did to yourself. Not good. Doesn't really show a lot of Christian love, eh? You criticized me for that once. It can be tough when you hold yourself up as a moderator of what a mature, adult Christian ought to be. I suggest you surrender that position. It will simplify your life.

    You do have interesting thought processes.

  12. Troy Jones 2012.04.10

    DE,

    I was making a point. Stace can attack but he can't take it. But to your point, I admit it isn't very nice. I guess I want it clear I think Stace Nelson is not a good person.

    During a debate where I argued my opposition to the death penalty, I counted all the derogatory terms Stace used directly toward me.

    Here is part of the post when I counted out what he said:

    Troy Jones November 7, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    My lack of civility?

    Doing a quick cursory purview of this while my wife wondered why I wouldn’t come to bed:

    I was called directly arrogant (doesn’t include when you lumped me in with Bill) at least 16 times, asinine at least 5 times, referenced my ego at least 11 times (or does that combine with arrogant making it 27 arrogant references), liberal or faux conservative over 11 times, ignorant at least 5 times, hateful, insane, and elitist. However, when you call me long-winded (over 5 times) or some other derivation, I admit you are right.

    http://dakotawarcollege.com/archives/23096/comment-page-1#comment-127665

  13. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.10

    Hey, wait a minute: I didn't call anyone names, did I? ;-)

  14. Stace Nelson 2012.04.10

    You were attempting to make the point of your little shoes connect with my uncomfortable target of your strange attentions. There is nothing Christian or intelligent to salvage from your comments regardless of your futile efforts to do so.

    "Yet you acknowledge your incivility own in part and then what claim de minimus for the rest?

    Who are you to dictate what or how anyone posts? What kind of arrogant idiot imposes rules or confers official debate status on a blog that is not even their own? It is your egocentric arrogance that gives you such idiotic ideas of self importance to do so or just your idiocy?

    Pointing out such may not be customary; however, the offenses causing one to do so are all yours."

  15. Troy Jones 2012.04.11

    Dear Corey (ala Ann Landers),

    When I come here I often run into this cross between Ox (movie "Stripes"), Col. Jessup (A Few Good Men) and Austin Powers. My mom wants me to be nice to those who are "special" if you know what I mean but she also doesn't want me to play with the bad kids. My dad says for me to hold my ground. What should I do?

    Torn

  16. larry kurtz 2012.04.11

    Protestant on Catholic violence: priceless....

  17. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    Stace seems especially sensitive to any discussion of his nards and the 4th down punting thereof. Also any reference to the magnitude (or lack thereof) of his um... football.

    These are childish things of course, but hilarious nonetheless, to those of us muching popcorn on the sidelines.

    Troy, channel your inner Powers!

    And Stace, as they say in the biz, if you're going to have to eat a turd, don't nibble.

    Now, carry on gentlemen. LOL.

  18. LK 2012.04.11

    "but hilarious nonetheless, to those of us muching popcorn on the sidelines."

    It's also very economical. That stuff they sell at the movies is tasty but expensive. I can make it much cheaper on the stovetop. The butter and grease on the keys does tend to get messy, however.

  19. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    LK, I see you didn't correct my typo or give me a well deserved [sic]. Thanks for that :^). And yeah the price of popcorn at the movies is highway robbery.

  20. Steve Sibson 2012.04.11

    "if you’re going to have to eat a turd, don’t nibble."

    Fleming, I am not eating your BS. Who are you to comment on civility, oh great man of knowledge and reason?

  21. LK 2012.04.11

    I tend to each too much popcorn at every sitting, so I thought you were being creative and coining a new word as a form by combining "munch" and "much."

  22. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    LK, you are too kind, sir. Thanks again.

  23. Stace Nelson 2012.04.11

    Mr Jones,
    The real sum of a man is not the simple determinations YOU dole out in the delusions of your own self-worth; however, the tangible examples that one has routinely set through the course of their life demonstrating the true metal of their character.

    @Bill Having spent a life time amongst manly man, the obsession Mr Jones has demonstrated towards my male equipment, and his fantasy to do it damage, was peculiar to me to say the least. The hypocricy of him making such statments, after condemning me for simply outing the misconduct of a couple lying politicians, is not lost on my unsensitve nature.

  24. Stace Nelson 2012.04.11

    Must have got some of Bill's popcorn oil on my key board... dang fat-fingers.

  25. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    Spoken like a true egg man, Nelson.

    I have here attached a brief note on the psychological benefit of carrying on conversations of "extended pointlessness," a criterion to which I believe this thread has devolved sufficiently to conform.

    And while I am sure Mr. Sibson will [sadly] refuse to read it, I remain convinced that he should. As for the rest here, enjoy yourselves, lest ye come to revel in fear and self-loathing. Amen.

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/freuds-radical-talking/

  26. Troy Jones 2012.04.11

    See Corey,

    He just won't go away. And, he keeps mentioning his privates. Kinda like saying "Don't spank me. Harder, harder." And all this claiming to be a manly man makes me think he might be compensating for something.

    Torn

  27. Steve Sibson 2012.04.11

    Fleming, egg man is very much New Age.

  28. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    I remember a few weeks back when Kurtz said sometimes he wanted to drive to Mitchell and kick Sibby in the nards, and the Sibmeister didn't even blink. Now THERE's a manly man for ya. LOL.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Lam073bi8

  29. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    Excerpt from link: "Eric Burdon, lead singer of The Animals, claims to be the 'Eggman' mentioned in the song's lyric. Burdon was known as 'Eggs' to his friends, the nickname originating from his fondness for breaking eggs over naked women's bodies. Burdon's biography mentions such an affair taking place in the presence of John Lennon, who shouted "Go on, go get it, Eggman..."

  30. Steve Sibson 2012.04.11

    Bill, thanks for adding the sex worshipping aspect of this New Age Theology.

  31. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    You're welcome, Steve. (I guess.)

    I'm not getting that anybody was worshiping anything actually. I think they were mostly just farting around.

    Is that what you do when you "worship" Steve? Just fart around, doing weird stuff and then laugh about it?

    If so, cool.

    But somehow I think not.

  32. Steve Sibson 2012.04.11

    "Is that what you do when you “worship” Steve? Just fart around, doing weird stuff and then laugh about it?"

    No Bill, I am no longer into New Age.

  33. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    So why would you assume someone who is spiritual and worshipping in a different way than you do would be any less serious and devout about it, Steve? Seems like only an elitist, supremacist, discriminating, self-righteous bigot would have an attitude like that. ...or maybe just an insane ignoramus. Take your pick.

  34. D.E. Bishop 2012.04.11

    Look boys, here is my point:

    I don't care if you argue with one another. Have at it. At times I found myself LOLing because you all can be really funny, and not always intentionally. I appreciate that.

    But I have issues. As every single one of you does. Religious charlatans drive me crazy! Those charlatans usually seem so nice and reasonable and kind and loving. That doesn't mean a thing about their real beliefs/agenda/etc. So I question them. I push them hard, very hard. I want to know what their deal is. They don't have to meet my standards. I know I am a heretic. But I want to know if they have a secret goal. It's rare for a religious type to not want to talk about their faith, their theology, etc. So I'm really suspicious when they are very reluctant. (Hickey, Scott). Usually teaching moments are a gift.

    I also am bugged when one professing high standards, violates them, then continues to criticize others for not having his high standards. (Troy & others)

    All that being said, I have a temper, I get angry, I get profane. I don't care if someone else does too. Just don't then turn around and criticize others for doing the same.

    Okay, that's it. Really pretty simple. But if you have questions, go ahead and ask.

    (BTW, I always reserve the right to ignore anyone at any time, or not rise to every bait. But if you ask me about my faith or ministry, I'll probably answer.)

  35. Steve Sibson 2012.04.11

    "So why would you assume someone who is spiritual and worshipping in a different way than you do would be any less serious and devout about it, Steve?"

    Never said New Agers are not serious about their beliefs. You were the one that said, "fart around, doing weird stuff and then laugh about it". Sounds like a New Age hippy to me.

  36. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    Because I don't think they were worshiping, Sibby. You said they were. You always say idiotic things like that. Don't you ever do a reality check before you type? Not everything you write is inspired by the Lord, Steve, just in case you didn't know. Sometimes you are just talking straight out of your ass.

  37. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    D.E. as you probably know, and in case you don't, I have no issues with you or any questions at this time, Sister. Please do carry on. (We can discuss, if you like, the specific value of moments of "righteous indignance," but perhaps on some other thread where Sibby's not hovering over our shoulders drooling his mindless nonsense.)

  38. Stace Nelson 2012.04.11

    @DE Bishop Well said.

    @Bill or should I call you Professor Moriarty?

    @Troy Tsk, tsk.. The telltale Fredudian slip remains in your initial comments. My unease with your overt public preoccupation and fantasys of violence to my gentilia are natural.

  39. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.11

    Dear Torn,

    Ann Landers hates to step into a disagreement between your mom and your dad. Ann Landers hates even more to step into a discussion of anyone's genitalia (even though such conversations may boost readership and generate some really juicy Google ads).

    That said, go with Mom, halfway. Don't play with the bad kids, but don't feel like you have to play with the "special" kids. You are not under any obligation to play with anyone you don't have fun playing with.

    Now Ann Landers knows that's tough, because if you don't play, the other kid acts like he's won. Ann Landers likes winning at least as much as you do, Torn. But some games aren't worth playing, and even when the other kid thinks he's winning, you lose nothing by stepping away. Ann Landers does it all the time with one particular neighbor who keeps knocking on her door and shouting the same meaningless phrases over and over.

    Ann Landers hopes too that even if you can ignore the one kid who just won't play nicely with you, you'll continue to drop by to play with the rest of us. Ann Landers can tell that a lot of the other kids enjoy your company... even when you are "challenging" to hang around with.

    Ann

    (p.s.: Ann Landers thinks both Chris Nelson and Kristi Noem look better with more hair, not less.)

  40. Bill Fleming 2012.04.11

    Dear Ann,

    Do you think if we just ignore him, that "special" kid will stop telling us about how sensitive he is about his nards all the time?

    Hopeful.

  41. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "Because I don’t think they were worshiping, Sibby."

    Bill, you should have stopped at, "Because I don't think".

  42. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.12

    Dear Hopeful,

    In this case, we can't make any guarantees that our actions will affect the other person. It may be more important that we consider what our actions do to ourselves.

    Ann Landers, channeling Ghandi

  43. Troy Jones 2012.04.12

    Thanks Ann,

    Now, let me ask you about my wife. . . . Never mind. Happy wife, happy life.

    Torn

  44. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    "I would suggest first of all that all of you Christians, missionaries and all begin to live more like Jesus Christ." — Gandhi (when asked how to facilitate bringing Christianity to India)

    Doesn't sound "New Agey" to me, Steve. It sounds like Sibby. LOL.

  45. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "when asked how to facilitate bringing Christianity to India"

    Bill, the New Agers are bringing Eastern Mysticism to Christianity. That is not the solution to the Apostate church. It is part of the problem.

  46. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    Ghandi was no worshipper of Jesus Christ:

    Gandhi was "never interested in the historical Jesus", p 22; nor in the virgin birth, miracles, etc. p 24. He did not take as literally true that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, p 66; says the historic Jesus who only died once 2,000 years ago is no help, p 42; did not believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, p 94. Gandhi said that Jesus was near perfect but not as perfect as God, p 26; that he had psychic powers and that his miracles were magic, p 27.

    http://www.soundwitness.org/pop_culture/a_critique_of_gandhi.htm

  47. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    You have no argument, Steve. Nobody here is claiming that Gandhi was a Christian. His father was a Hindu and his mother a Jain. The point is he understood the teachings of Jesus well enough to recognize that most Christians don't act like Christ at all, and that if they really wanted to persuade Hindus, Jains and Muslims to become Christians, perhaps they should set a better example.

  48. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "The point is he understood the teachings of Jesus well enough to recognize that most Christians don’t act like Christ at all"

    If you don't understand why that is true, then you don't understand the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Bible.

  49. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Steve, of course I understand why it's true.

    I'm the one who wrote it.

    Go peddle your papers elsewhere, Sibby.

    You're not contributing anything here.

    But if you must persist, Gandhi, in both word and action, was far more like Jesus than you are.

    In fact, he was assasinated by a radical Hindu group for claiming to be Christian, Muslim and Jewish as well as Hindu and Jain, and trying to liberate and unify the people of India and bring peace.

    You on the other hand, work for a big corporation even as you rail against them.

    You lobby for gun laws that allow people who are afraid of each other to just flat out shoot each other without any legal consequence, even as you supposedly support life and aliveness on the planet.

    And you look down your nose at anyone who doesn't believe precisely as you do, even as you are stupendously unable to communicate exactly what it is you do believe and why it is relevant to the rest of us.

    You are a walking, talking contradiction, Sibby.

    A classic study in serial hypocrisy.

    And as such, you do your cause far more harm than good.

  50. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "Steve, of course I understand why it’s true."

    Then you continue to type and prove that you don't.

    Bill, you are obviously confused. Typcial of the New Agers.

  51. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Steve, you are obviously clueless. Typical of a paranoid schizophrenic.

  52. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    Thanks for the personal attack, proves you lost the debate. Sorry you could not be enlightened by truth.

  53. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Sample Sibby campaign bumperstickers:

    • Send Vehle to Pierre, Sibby to Yankton.•
    • Sibby for State Hospital •
    • Vote Vehle (because Pierre has enuf nuts) •

  54. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    If only Bill would have read the link I provided above:

    The human heart is wicked and rebellious (Jer. 17:9; Rom. 3:9-18) and cannot save itself (Rom. 8:3,4). The central element in the Christian faith is atonement; God sent his Son to save us by his substitutionary death (atonement) (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:21). "Good" works add nothing to our salvation; we are saved through faith alone and even this faith is a gift from God. If we think our works contribute anything to our salvation we forfeit the gift, (Gal. 5:4). Works come as a fruit of salvation, not a cause of it. So many Scriptures could be cited here that it would require a whole Bible study, but I will cite just a few: Romans 3:21-4:8; Romans 10:1-4; 1 John 5:11-13 - note that the only condition is faith ("believe"); John 3:16; Eph. 2:1-10; Gal. 2:15,16,21.

    Sadly, the central message of the Bible, the Gospel (I Cor. 15:1-4), is lost on Gandhi. He proposes the oldest counterfeit of all, self-salvation. Self salvation results from two misconceptions: an underestimation of God’s absolute holiness, and an overestimation of mankind’s goodness. For those who trust in their own works, and reject God’s way of grace (unmerited favor), the substitutionary death of Jesus is abhorrent. This spurning of God’s only means of salvation, is very apparent in Gandhi.

  55. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    We're not even on the same page Steve. You're talking about "salvation" and the afterlife and I'm talking about how human beings should be with each other in the here and now. Just because you accept Jesus as your savior doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.

  56. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "You’re talking about “salvation” and the afterlife and I’m talking about how human beings should be with each other in the here and now."

    I'm talking about the later too Bill:

    "Works come as a fruit of salvation, not a cause of it. "

  57. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Hence, Gandhi's point as per above, Steve.

    “I would suggest first of all that all of you Christians, missionaries and all begin to live more like Jesus Christ.”

    You're just running yourself around in circles here as usual.

    Give it up.

    If you're looking for the truth, the truth is you need to get counseling from a good mental health therapist.

    Period.

    End of discussion.

  58. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    Bill, can't you read:

    "For those who trust in their own works, and reject God’s way of grace (unmerited favor), the substitutionary death of Jesus is abhorrent. This spurning of God’s only means of salvation, is very apparent in Gandhi."

  59. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    This is not a literacy test, Steve. It's a sanity test. You are failing it.

  60. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    Bill, what I provided was a link to an apolegetics web site. This is not something that I dreamed up. Saved through the grace of God is common, except for you New Agers and apostate churches that think man can save himself through works.

  61. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    I read the whole site, Sibby. I get it. You're a Lutheran. Good to know. Thanks. Can we move on now?

  62. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    No Bill, I am not a Lutheran, you are a liar.

  63. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Well, the apologetics site you linked to is Lutheran. Why did you show it to us then? What was your point? Do you see why people think you're nuts yet?

  64. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    I think you are a Lutheran, Sibby. All the signs point to it. Why do you refuse to accept the truth about yourself? And did you read that stuff about the Mason hand signals yet? You really should you know.

    From now on, Sibby, this is how conversations are going to go between us.

    Every time you type something, I'm going to point out how that makes you a Lutheran and a Mason who makes secret hand signals. I promise to be exactly as relentless about this as you have been with us, because I think it is something you need to experience for your own "salvation."

    Look at it this way.

    At least I warned you first.

  65. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "I think you are a Lutheran, Sibby."

    Bill Fleming joins the ranks of the paranoid conspiracy theorists. Typcial anti-Protestant Catholic. Bill, did you know the Jesuits are Masonic too. Ever consider the Masons have infiltrated most all organizations?

    "Why did you show it to us then? What was your point?"

    To prove that your use of Ghandi was an outright fabrication. (And you used that before) Just like your accusation that I am a Lutheran.

  66. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    Sad that fakes like Fleming resort to lies when confronted with truth.

  67. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    Why do you want to conceal the truth of your religious beliefs from us Sibby?

    What's wrong with being a Lutheran and a Mason?

    The website you linked to you that you say reflects the truth is clearly a Lutheran site.

    Why in the world are you denying it?

    It's right there for everyone to see. Just read the last two paragraphs and follow the links.

    It's your post, Sibby.

    As you yourself said, "I'm not making it up." LOL.

    http://www.soundwitness.org/statement.html

    p.s. better keep practicing those secret hand gestures, bud. They look pretty trichy if you ask me.

  68. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "The website you linked to you that you say reflects the truth is clearly a Lutheran site.

    Why in the world are you denying it?"

    Never denied it Bill, You lied again.

    I used the site to refute the lies you brought forward about Ghandi. It should be you who would want to deny Lutherans. Are you now agreeing with the Lutherans and denying Ghandi?

  69. Bill Fleming 2012.04.12

    No, Sibby, I'm just saying that you are a Lutheran, and you are denying it.

    That's he way it works though.

    You can be a Lutheran and not even know it.

    You have to do some research.

    We already know quite a bit from the website you agree with.

    Now, how well do you like jello salad?

    Do you like to sing loud in the shower?

    Do you have relatives in Minnesota?

  70. PrairieLady 2012.04.12

    Bill, Sorry.....
    I was raised Lut-run in MN.
    Hate Jello
    Sing in the shower on occassion.
    Relatives in MN.
    One step away from the Cat-licks.
    Don't think I would be in the Sibby catagory, or am I????

  71. Steve Sibson 2012.04.12

    "We already know quite a bit from the website you agree with."

    Except the real Church is not a man-made institution.

  72. Bill Fleming 2012.04.13

    Denial. It's not just a river in Egypt anymore, is it Stevie.

    PrairieLady, Martin Luther Sibby is a one-of-a-kind category. You can try to get in, but he won't let you. There's only room for one crying voice in his wilderness.

  73. Steve Sibson 2012.04.13

    So Bill, what part of this do you disagree with and why:

    The human heart is wicked and rebellious (Jer. 17:9; Rom. 3:9-18) and cannot save itself (Rom. 8:3,4). The central element in the Christian faith is atonement; God sent his Son to save us by his substitutionary death (atonement) (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:21). “Good” works add nothing to our salvation; we are saved through faith alone and even this faith is a gift from God. If we think our works contribute anything to our salvation we forfeit the gift, (Gal. 5:4). Works come as a fruit of salvation, not a cause of it. So many Scriptures could be cited here that it would require a whole Bible study, but I will cite just a few: Romans 3:21-4:8; Romans 10:1-4; 1 John 5:11-13 – note that the only condition is faith (“believe”); John 3:16; Eph. 2:1-10; Gal. 2:15,16,21.

    Sadly, the central message of the Bible, the Gospel (I Cor. 15:1-4), is lost on Gandhi. He proposes the oldest counterfeit of all, self-salvation. Self salvation results from two misconceptions: an underestimation of God’s absolute holiness, and an overestimation of mankind’s goodness. For those who trust in their own works, and reject God’s way of grace (unmerited favor), the substitutionary death of Jesus is abhorrent. This spurning of God’s only means of salvation, is very apparent in Gandhi.

  74. Bill Fleming 2012.04.13

    I don't disagree with any of it, Sibby. It looks perfectly Lutheran to me. And I don't think Gandhi ever claimed to be a Lutheran.

    But you do, so I'm glad you finally told us what religion you are.

    Great!

    But now you are denying it?

  75. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.13

    Gandhi, Gandhi, Gandhi—I've got to remember to put that h in the right spot.

    But congrats, Sibby, on once again hijacking a post to your favored irrelevancies. Sigh.

  76. Bill Fleming 2012.04.13

    No worries, Cory. This was kind of a strange post anyway, don't you think? I mean with the blurry pix and the hair cut and moustache thingy? At least we got to learn how to spell Gandhi and find out that Sibby is an Evangelical Lutheran. Your cup is still half full, broheem.

  77. Bill Fleming 2012.04.13

    Found this for Sibby... there's nothing to be ashamed of, man:

    As Garrison tells it: "I have made fun of Lutherans for years - who wouldn't, if you lived in Minnesota? But I have also sung with Lutherans, and that is one of the main joys of life, along with hot baths and fresh sweet corn. We make fun of Lutherans for their blandness, their excessive calm, their fear of giving offense, their lack of speed, and also for their secret fondness for macaroni and cheese. But nobody sings like they do.

    "If you ask an audience in New York City, a relatively Lutheran-less place, to sing along on the chorus of 'Michael Row the Boat Ashore,' they will look daggers at you as if you had asked them to strip to their underwear. But if you do this among Lutherans they'll smile and row that boat to the shore and up on the beach! And down the road!

    "Lutherans are bred from childhood to sing in four-part harmony. It's a talent that comes from sitting on the lap of someone singing alto or tenor or bass and hearing the harmonic intervals by putting your little head against that person's rib cage. It's natural for Lutherans to sing in harmony. We're too modest to be soloists, too worldly to sing in unison.

    "I once sang the bass line of 'Children of the Heavenly Father' in a room with about 3,000 Lutherans in it and, when we finished, we all had tears in our eyes, partly from the promise that God will not forsake us, partly from the proximity of all those lovely voices. By our joining in harmony, we somehow promise that we will not forsake each other.

    "I do believe this: These Lutherans are the sort of people you could call up when you're in deep distress. If you're dying, they'll comfort you. If you're lonely, they'll talk to you. And if you're hungry, they'll give you tuna salad!"

  78. Steve Sibson 2012.04.13

    "I don’t disagree with any of it, Sibby. It looks perfectly Lutheran to me. And I don’t think Gandhi ever claimed to be a Lutheran."

    Right Bill, you can't agree with both salvation through the Grace of God and Gandhi. So which way is it?

  79. Steve Sibson 2012.04.13

    "But congrats, Sibby, on once again hijacking a post to your favored irrelevancies. Sigh."

    And Fleming had nothing to do with it? Typical for New Age Theocrats to stick together, even when they are wrong.

  80. Bill Fleming 2012.04.13

    Here's how it went Sibby:
    1. Cory mentioned Gandhi
    2. You called him "New Agey" for it.
    3. I countered that Gandhi said Christians should act more Christian (which is what you usually say.)
    4. Then you told us you didn't believe in Gandhi because you are Lutheran.
    5. Then we told come Lutheran jokes.

    I think we are all in agreement here Gandhi is Gandhi and he said wht he said.

    The Lutheran site you referenced points out the difference between what they think Gandhi thought and what they think, theologically speaking.

    It appears that you agree with the Lutheran position not only about what they think the Bible says, but also about what they think Gandhi thought.

    That's all okay with me.

    I don't mind your being a Lutheran, and I bet Cory doesn't either.

  81. caheidelberger Post author | 2012.04.13

    Roger that, Bill: I have little grounds for complaint on a post about hair being hijacked to nuttier issues. #:-) (That octothorpe can serve as our new Kristi-haired emoticon.)

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