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Hubbel Speaks Tuesday in SF on Communism: Focus on EB-5!

Pat's mad that gubernatorial candidate Lora Hubbel doesn't Tweet more. Maybe he could take it up with her personally at her next public campaign event, Tuesday, February 18, at Tinner's at 69th and Minnesota in Sioux Falls.

Hubbel says she's carrying on the fight her dad waged against the Chinese in Korea to "protect us from Communist misery." Hubbel says we face such misery now in the evil machinations of ObamaCare, Common Core, and the crony capitalism of the EB-5 visa investment program.

Arguments about the Affordable Care Act will not change any voting outcome this year. Hubbel's arguments about Common Core will simply stir the same stew of anti-government paranoia and never get around to talking about making real improvements for teachers and students. One can only hope attendees at Tinner's will leave the tinfoil under their taters and focus the conversation on EB-5 and the very concrete tyranny of corruption in Pierre that properly focused candidates and attentive voters can change.

31 Comments

  1. Nick Nemec 2014.02.15

    Pat does righteous indignation better than anyone around.

  2. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.02.15

    I reject the notion that Pat does anything better than I can, Nick. I can be more righteous and more indignant... and you and I have more to be indignant about than any comfortable Republican in South Dakota. :-)

  3. Lanny V Stricherz 2014.02.15

    Have the communists been sneaking into SD again, or is she just concerned about those of us who have a socialist bent?

  4. Roger Cornelius 2014.02.15

    Lanny,

    The communists have never left South Dakota, they have disguised themselves as a tea party.

  5. Jamaal 2014.02.15

    I don't consider Hubbel a serious candidate for governor, however I disagree with your statement that PPACA will not change any voting outcomes this year. I think it's going to be an important part of election platforms.

  6. Deb Geelsdottir 2014.02.15

    Yeah Owen. It's gibberish.

  7. tara volesky 2014.02.15

    Don't sell her short. She will destroy Daugaard in the debates.

  8. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    Hubbel knows what the hell she is talking about. This Republican regime is corrupt, and she's not afraid to talk about it. Daugaard is bankrolled by big hospitals and insurance companies. The only 2 candidates who will not receive a dime from them are Myers and Hubbel. I believe she is smart enough to support the Myer's health care plan for SD, instead of the ACA. Don't sell her short.

  9. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    Roger, the communists in SD are not the tea party, they are the crony, corporative, Republican establishment who have been a one party ruler going on 40 years. The establishment does not like the tea partiers.

  10. interested party 2014.02.16

    DD doesn't have to debate anyone in a GOP primary.

  11. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    He's going to have to answer some questions.

  12. interested party 2014.02.16

    His deposition to the US Attorney is shielded as long as he is the executive.

  13. owen reitzel 2014.02.16

    While I agree with you that DD has to go Tara Hubbel is certainly not the answer.
    The Democrats have 2 great candidates and either one is more worthy of our support than Hubbel.
    Another conservative is not the answer

  14. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    The two main parties along with the smaller parties and Independents have a great candidate: Michael Meyers.

  15. Winston 2014.02.16

    Most of the Republican voters who vote for Rhoden, Nelson, Bosworth, or Ravnsborg in the June primary will most likely vote for Hubbel for governor merely out of protest to the Rounds/Daugaard association and EB-5.

    If greater facts break before the primary about Rounds and EB-5, then this will only embolden the anti-Rounds/Daugaard voters and may cause Rounds supports to stay home resulting in an even more tighter race between Daugaard and Hubbel then is currently perceived.

    Without Huether in the race, the only way the Democrats are going to win the Governors race in 2014 is if Hubbel was to some how miraculously win the GOP primary.

    Because Daugaard will most likely ignore Hubbel throughout the primary season, this strategy will actually work to Hubbel's advantage because her political antics will be sidelined thus making her appear to be more credible than she is; especially as the Senate race heats-up and more and more attention is given to that race.

    If the anti-Rounds vote is 60% or greater in June, then Rounds may prevail on that day, but I am not so sure about Daugaard. Is this a pipe dream? Maybe, but I could see it happen where Daugaard and not Rounds is the first victim of the EB-5 scandal with Rounds's failure coming in the fall.

    As far as Mike Meyers, he is a good and capable candidate, but he cannot win. A vote for Meyers is a vote for Daugaard as long as Daugaard is the nominee that is. An Independent Pressler could win in the fall, but an Independent Meyers will not.

  16. interested party 2014.02.16

    Patience, people.

  17. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    Come on Winston, vote for the candidate with the best ideas and courage to tackle the EB-5 scandal. When people start paying attention to the issues and stop worrying about party we will make progress. People before party and politricks. Myers does not play politics or answer to the political elite. Look what happened with hemp. A few months ago, he was considered quirky and crazy for pushing hemp. Pretty much zero support from the legislature. Now, 87% passage on the pro-hemp resolution in the house. Winston, a vote for Myers is a vote for Myers and you are not wasting your vote by voting for the Hemp and Health Care candidate. It's a long time until the general election.

  18. grudznick 2014.02.16

    I have not heard Mr. Myers speak yet. Does he have other positions beside being pro-marijuana?

  19. interested party 2014.02.16

    Please join me and send both Rep. Wismer and Joe Lowe some money.

  20. Lanny V Stricherz 2014.02.16

    Winston, What you, and so many other folks forget is that Rhoden was the Majority Leader in the House, arguably the most powerful person in the legislature, the first four of the last six years that Rounds was Governor. Not much of Rounds agenda would have been enacted without Rhoden carrying his water to the legislature. I would say Rhoden is almost as culpable on EB-5 as is Rounds.

    There is one bill that I have referenced on here before that he had a lot to do with defeating at the behest of the then Governor. It was a bill concerning our returning troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and would have provided them with some healthcare that future years may show that they needed. But the Governor opposed it and Rhoden helped to get it defeated.

    We support our troops. Yeah, unless we don't.

  21. grudznick 2014.02.16

    Mr. Stricherz, did you figure out what it means when Mr. Rhoden hoghoused all those bills back when he was arguably the most powerful person in the legislatures?

  22. Rick 2014.02.16

    I clicked on the link to the War College but it returns 'The website cannot display the page'. Then I Googled War College, clicked on it and received the same error. Has the War Toilet imploded?!

  23. Winston 2014.02.16

    Tara, that is all fine and dandy. I just telling you what I think is going to happen, not what I want to happen. Mr. Myers's candidacy completes for Democratic votes and not so much for Republican votes in the fall, the math speaks for itself.

    As far as political parties, I am a great believer in the two-party system. The day you effectively erase the relevance of the two-party system is the day that the awaiting oligarchical forces will ultimately prevail.

    Lanny, go ahead and tie Rhoden to the EB-5 scandal, you will still have the voters of the other three dark horse Republican Senate candidates doing the same political damage to Daugaard and Rounds, which I alleged in the aforementioned comment, without Rhoden's help.

  24. Lanny V Stricherz 2014.02.16

    gtudz, The bills that did not fit what the insiders, you know, the guys that cannot abide Stace Nelson, because he won't allow them to get away with running our State government like it was the mafia or the Costa Nostra, are the ones that were hoghoused.

  25. Winston 2014.02.16

    Rick, the DWC is probably suffering from press release download/overload.

  26. Lanny V Stricherz 2014.02.16

    I got the same message, Rick.

  27. grudznick 2014.02.16

    I thought you said, Mr. Stricherz, that this househogging of bills meant they were killed.

  28. Tara Volesky 2014.02.16

    Winston, I just think it's nice to also have an Independent voice. 42% of America consider themselves Independent voters. The 2 party system doesn't seem to be working to well in Washington and the 1 party system in Pierre seems to be pretty corrupt. Winston you made some great observations on Lora Hubble. There are over 100,000 registered Independents in SD. Pretty big voting block. Give me updated opinion on Myers after he gets on the ballot. Thanks.

  29. Lanny V Stricherz 2014.02.16

    Please call me Lanny, grudz. That is correct and if the powers that be wanted something passed he made sure it went through. THat is my point. He carried the ball for the Governor's programs in the legislature, that is why he is also not blameless on EB-5

  30. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.02.17

    PPACA will not change any voting outcomes this year. The folks who go to Lora's program to hear her call the ACA Communism would not vote for the Democratic challenger to Dennis Daugaard in any reasonably imaginable scenario. The personal insurance mandate is law, the exchanges are up and running, people have coverage, and neither Congress nor South Dakota are going to repeal the ACA. Hubbel is shouting after a train that's left the station.

    The only remaining policy hook on which voters might hang a new hat is Medicaid expansion, and digging in heels on that issue won't win Hubbel any new votes. A majority of voters support expanding Medicaid under the ACA and bringing those federal dollars to South Dakota. That's why Dennis Daugaard is compromising and pitching expansion harder in this election year, to keep the Medicaid-ACA expansion from becoming a voting issue.

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