U.S. Senate candidate Stace Nelson won the endorsement of right-wing anti-immigration group Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC) this week:
"America faces a dire threat from illegal immigration, illegal immigrant employers, and corrupt DC politicians eager to change our laws to accommodate them both!" said William Gheen, President of ALIPAC. "We need people like Stace Nelson in the US Senate who will stand up for our existing laws which are designed to protect American workers and taxpayers instead of any kind of amnesty for illegals that would permanently undermine America's borders and future elections!" ["Stace Nelson Endorsed for US Senate for Opposing Immigration Reform Amnesty," ALIPAC, 2014.05.01]
ALIPAC would happily replace Senator Tim Johnson with Nelson, because Senator Johnson voted for S. 744 last year. S. 744 is sensible immigration reform. The bill, passed by the Senate but blocked by the House in 2013, is not amnesty; it gives illegal immigrants a tough set of hoops to jump through to obtain citizenship. Senator John Thune and 31 Republican colleagues voted against it last summer, largely because they don't want to have to got to the effort of gerrymandering another ten million brown people out of their exclusive white districts.
ALIPAC takes the same hardline position as Senator Thune. ALIPAC chief William Gheen says immigration reform like S. 744 threatens America's tradition of being "predominately governed by people of European descent and Christian, different denominations of Christian and desit backgrounds...." Gheen views immigrants as tumors and calls immigration reform "national rape" that would dissolve our borders and bring up to 40 million immigrants onto the voter registration rolls:
If illegal immigrants are ever rewarded in any form or fashion with citizenship and voting rights, it is all over. There is no way that you, me and the rest of the center-right Americans can ever compete with 20 million illegal immigrants voting in elections, backed up by the next 10-20 million that are going to pour through our ripped-open borders right after that....
...Immigration reform, it sounds so pleasant, but the truth of the matter is that people that have no regard and in some cases antipathy towards the citizens of the United States are controlling these mediums and their way of dealing with us, instead of using tanks or bombs, is to flood this country with people that will replace us in our jobs, homes and ballot boxes [William Gheen, quoted in Brian Tashman, "Gheen: Immigration Reform is 'National Rape,' Hurts 'Traditional Americans'," Right Wing Watch, 2014.02.10].
I'm not sure that's the kind of endorsement Nelson should tout too loudly, at least not among rational, fair-minded South Dakotans. But during the Republican primary, ALIPAC's endorsement gives Nelson a noteworthy distinction from frontrunner moderate Marion Michael Rounds and his illegitimate challenger Annette Bosworth, both of whom have publicly stated their support for the path to citizenship offered by S. 744.
Sigh, both Nelson and Thune and this group that gives them some love, show pure ignorance when it comes to business.
Statehood for the tribes and Mexico.
The cluelessness of the earth hater party never ceases to shock.
Yes Jerry, who is gonna run the shovel. Sigh.
Yup, that's all we need...we've got millions of actual citizens unemployed and millions more under-employed so why not make it easier for 10-15-20 (whatever figure you like) million illegals to compete for jobs, housing, services and benefits? Why would I see this as a winning strategy except for the RINOS who want the cheap labor and the Dempols who want the cheap votes? What do the rest of us get? Obvious answer: squat.
So, Cranky, with all that domestic labor sitting around waiting to be employed, why are employers still hiring illegal immigrants?
You'd lose your posters if they were working Cory. I doubt most are retired. Ask them.
Hey, Les! Cheap shot! People find time when they can to post. Let's not inquire into their personal lives and schedules.
I'd call it a shot across the bow, but I'm not all that good with words and sentence structure, Cory.
Les sounds as bad as Hickey, thinking he knows what others are doing or should do with there time, as if it were any of his business.
The USA is doing much better with the labor force than established economies such as China, England, Germany, France, Japan and others. They are each facing a quickly aging workforce in all sectors of their economies, from highly educated to unskilled. The US is avoiding that fate solely due to immigration, in all sectors.
If we don't continue with our current rate of immigration, what will happen to our economy?
Cheap shot Roger.
Cory: they're cheap, uneducated and will do what they are told. They aren't rioting for $10.10 an hour and they need to send most of their wages home so are not as likely to make waves.
It also keeps the local wages down (despite all the Pols bleating for an increase in the minimum wage...) and they are used to being led, controlled by their "betters". Welcome to the Oligarchy.
Thank you Les, I appreciate that.
Now does this endorsement make Nelson more Republican than the others?
Rounds, Hickey, Bosworth, and now Nelson have all shown their true colors this past week. I wonder what is going on in the republican party? Sounds like all the radicals are in the upper tear of the party.
Fat, lazy Americans need all the immigrants we can possibly muster so fat, lazy Americans can wallow. It's a good thing regardless of illegal's problems/costs laid at the feet of Americans. Why do we need s744 when we already have immigration laws on the books for everyone but Roger.?
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S744, is no different than saying, if I broke into your home and forced you to allow me to live with you, with the new law s744 if I jump through some tough hoops, I get to continue living in your home. Great Corey, how much room do you have?
Les is more on today.
Les, I'm all about the rule of law. I recognize that S.744 is surrender to pragmatism rather than strict adherence to principle.
That said, Les, your analogy is flawed. If we want to compare illegal immigrants to house-crashers, we have to weave a more complicated analogy: it's more like we live in a frat house. Our illegal guest hardly had to break in; five other guys in the house shouted, "Hey, you on the street! We'll pay you if you come clean our rooms!" Our illegal guest comes in, does his work, sleeps in a musty corner of the basement, buys groceries, kicks in for rent, and breaks less stuff than our legal housemates do during our big keggers. With S.744, the landlord is saying, "Well, you're not on the lease, and that creates liability problems, but you are adding value to the house, so hey, if you want to stay and pay a bunch of back rent, and if you let me find spots for my other lease applicants first, we can make a deal."
Curious, Les and others: just how serious is the crime of illegal immigration? Just the act itself, sneaking across the border and being in the U.S.A. without official permission—how does that stack up to other crimes? How hard ought we punish someone for that?
We could replace every wingnut pol with an uneducated immigrant and not only save mucho dinero,but they would arrive on time,stay late,do their share and more of the work for a whole lot less,not ever complain about working too hard,never take vacations or junkets,and actually leave at the end of the day and Americans would know something actually got done for once.
Thanks, Lar. Coming from you that is a compliment!
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Big stretch Corey. You come into my home uninvited and it is a crime from the time you enter forward. Regardless if you leave you are still criminal. It doesn't matter if you treat me better than my wife who beat me. It doesn't matter if you win the Nobel Peace Prize. You are a criminal and don't get to stay in my house until you pass muster on all the requirements to be welcome.
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If my analogy is flawed, then breaking the law is something that just doesn't happen. Unless, it happens to you? Maybe your daughter invites an internet predator into your home thinking he is cool, until. That is why we have requirements to enter our nation, a vetting process if you will.
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How hard ought we punish crime? Make it fit the worst crime an illegal has perpetrated or maybe, you need to head south with no papers and find the your own answers in good ol Me'hico.
Les, our Lakota neighbors might have another take on our claim to their home.
How other countries treat illegal immigrants should not dictate how we treat illegal immigrants.
Again, I agree that a crime is a crime and should be punished. But how should hopping the border be punished? I'm not asking about other crimes an illegal immigrant might commit. Murder, robbery, rape, whatever—those crimes should all be punished in and of themselves. But what about the act of illegal immigration in and of itself? What punishment does it deserve? Are you suggesting, Les, that the farmhand who hops the border but follows every other law while on American soil should receive the same punishment as the illegal immigrant who runs drugs and commits murder on our soil?
I'd like to see a blanket amnesty. Extending it to those who've committed criminal acts isn't unheard of, e.g., President Washington granted amnesty to all those who participated in the Whiskey Rebellion, Vietnam draft dodgers were granted amnesty in 1977, there were the Reagan era amnesties, and there were others. Getting undocumented residents on board as legal residents and legitimately employed workers paying into the SS and MC payroll deduction pool would probably relieve a lot of the cash flow burdens on those trust funds. Dealing with the flow of new illegal entrants should be a separate issue, not part of some comprehensive deal.
John - I notice in your comment that you did not list a pathway to citizenship as well. Was that just an oversight or are there lines to be read between? Undocumented workers attaining citizenship doesn't bode well for the republican party.
An oversight, Barry. As long as they're paying taxes they should have all the representational rights that go with citizenship. If Pubs can't figure out a way to configure their messages to suit the coming demographic makeover in this country, the party is in deep trouble anyway. And anyway, if these latter-day Know-Nothings in ALIPAC are indeed a source of some influence in the GOP, Republicans are likely to go the way of the Whigs.
What's the penalty for an illegal,uncionstitutional war on a sovereign nation that never threatened us? Do we just consider Bushie's war for the hell of it,border jumping? Apparently in the eyes of most wingnuts,it wasn't a crime at all. And don't we still have illegal American aliens in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Mike, what's the EB5 status in Iowa?
Comparing the resistance of going to war and killing or the whiskey rebellion of similar parameters with government forcing vets and farmers to pay a new tax, to aliens entering our country illegally is beyond anything I can comprehend.
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Open the gates and cut the costs of incarceration, amnesty for all. Crimes against the Lakota, amnesty for us Germans and Irish for our part.
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At what point do we become responsible for our actions in the present?
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JT on drugs? Go to any country in the world, pay taxes and ask for representation.
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