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NBC-Marist Poll Says Rounds Reopens Lead over Weiland

Was all the excitement about a narrow South Dakota U.S. Senate race mere hype? The latest NBC-Marist poll says maybe. It puts Rounds back above 40%, Weiland back below 30%, and Pressler back where every bit of conventional wisdom said he ought to be, below 20%.

14 points difference. Uff da. Does this mean the DSCC, Every Voice Action, and Mayday PAC will retreat from South Dakota? Does this mean South Dakotans really think using federal programs and state boards to line one's own pockets is cool?

KELO will burp up its Mason-Dixon poll results on the Senate race and EB-5 tomorrow. Stay tuned!


  1. larry kurtz 2014.10.26

    Howie was not polled making the results iffy at best.

  2. grudznick 2014.10.26

    Mr. Howie was not polled because he is being crushed with his own insanity and these media people who do polls know he steals old people's money. Mr. Pressler is under counted in this poll because people will like his plan of ending the gridlock.

  3. Bill Fleming 2014.10.26

    42%R+29%W+16%P = 87%
    Plenty of room for Howie + "undecided." = 13%

  4. Bill Fleming 2014.10.26

    Dang, I can't get Rounds at 42 out of my head! Sorry.

  5. grudznick 2014.10.26

    That 14% of the people plan to vote for Mr. Howie and are ashamed or embarrassed to admit it is a shocking image of the state of our society.

  6. Bill Fleming 2014.10.26

    43+29+16=88 with Howie+Undecided=12

  7. Jenny 2014.10.26

    What is with South Dakotans, are they really that ignorant? They don't believe the rotten corruption that happened under Rounds and now Daugaard (EB-5 and Lake Sharpe Investments)? This is just sad, and especially disturbing that local media did not even mention Lake Sharpe Investments this week.

  8. Jenny 2014.10.26

    As a staunch progressive, Gordon Howie or Stace Nelson would have made a better Senator representing SD than this Rounds crook. Stace if you're reading this, please open an investigation on Lake Sharpe Investments. I believe in your integrity and South Dakotans deserve better government than what they're getting.

  9. Jackilope 2014.10.26

    I cannot believe so many South Dakotans would vote for in-your-face crooks and liars. Nation wide, I am astonished that weasels like McConnell are running so close in the KY race. Billionaires are pouring their wealth into shallow candidates willing to sell out the people. Is it apathy? Ignorance? Would polling and voting be rigged?

  10. Bill Fleming 2014.10.26

    Jenny, actually, the poll shows that 58% of us think Rounds is a dud. He should be polling in the mid-60’s.

    My distress is that so many Dems are thinking of throwing their mission critical vote down the Republican Larry Pressler garbage disposal.

    Might just as well pound sand down a rathole.

  11. 96Tears 2014.10.26

    It's no longer the two-minute drill. There is 1:30 and still more to come. This poll is flukey. It's interesting to watch Meet the Press this morning. The alleged experts calmly sat there observing the newest poll numbers, calling the races based on whether the Democrats' or Republicans' nationalized narratives are working. Nothing deeper than that.

    This election in South Dakota is grounded by a serious local issue which has had the sad misfortune of being a bit difficult to follow if the discussion topic is the federal EB-5 program. At its nub, this has been about Rounds and his racketeering pals pocketing federal money under the pretext of economic development. In one word: THEFT. It's a little like the plot on Mel Brooks' The Producers. Get investors to put their money on high risk, low profit, high overhead projects and nobody will see you pocketing money in plain view.

    It was sickening to see today's Argus Sanford where Craig Lawrence's scribes were busy again. Montgomery got a story out trying to shove dirt on Rick Weiland about his request for federal stimulus money for local governments who enforce safety codes and energy codes (which save money for consumers??? That's a conflict?). If someone could tell me where his story has any relevance, please let me know. Must have been the editor's weekend off at the Argus Sanford.

    Scribe #2 J. Ellis wistfully opined that if there were significant open record laws enforced in South Dakota, Rounds could have been spared this EB-5 nonsense from becoming a big story. Well, that EB-5 thing wasn't such a big deal after all, right Jon?

    For the record, the Argus Sanford today also endorsed Daugaard, lauding his many accomplishments (again, if somebody can truthfully find a major accomplishment in the pile, please let me know) as the basis for his okee-dokee.

    Based on Scribes #1 and #2's unabated handiwork in service to Craig Lawrence so far this election, look for a Rounds endorsement and a repudiation of the Rounds Racketeering Scam as a non-story hyped by Democrats.

  12. Bill Fleming 2014.10.26

    Cory, I don't think it was hype. I think the race was very fluid for a while. It's starting to crystallize now.

  13. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.10.26

    Excellent summary, 96. Anyone who says we have liberal media in South Dakota is not paying attention.

    Bill, I hope that's the case, and I hope that crystallization locks people's attention on the malfeasance and incompetence of the Rounds administration.

  14. grudznick 2014.10.26

    That libbie newspaper in Sioux Falls has refused to endorse Ms. Wismer, she is so bad.

  15. grudznick 2014.10.26

    Goodness, it appears that less-libbie newspaper in Rapid City has also endorsed Mr. Daugaard.

  16. JeniW 2014.10.26

    Grudz, did you really think that the Sioux Falls based newspaper would even consider endorsing anyone other than who they did?

    If so, I am going to ask you "what's that stuff your smokin'?" :) :( (a funny, but sad smile)

  17. BlackHills76 2014.10.26

    Rick Weiland is a good guy and very much a "McGovern" style Democrat, but South Dakota has shifted extremely Republican since those days gone by. Back in the day you could count on some of those rural Eastern SD counties along with Minnehaha, Brown, Brookings, Beatle, Yankton and even a swath of Davison Co. to pull those numbers high enough for Democrats like McGovern, Kneip, Daschle, Johnson, etc. to overcome Western SD in a tight election. Yes the Reservations help a little to balance things out in the West, but a Democrat has to run well in those Eastern counties to win. Almost all of those formerly Democratic Counties have also shifted Republican in the past few years. I'm not sure what it is but SD is working it's way to becoming one the most red states in the US. Are we at the point where everyone is just happy to nominate a Republican for a seat and then not even have a General Election? I hope not, but it looks more and more like that each year. To think the Democrats held all 3 US Congressional seats for about 6 months in 2004... it has been quite a fall.

    If the State Democratic party ends up in the situation where they do not even have one Statewide elected person (looking like a real possibility at this time) I'm not sure how they move forward. At that point they don't even have a face or an identity. Maybe it's best to just stop fielding candidates for awhile and let people have what they want. An unanswered one-sided agenda where anyone can do whatever they want until things become so messed up people start looking for an alternative again. I'm not sure at this point. I do see a few bright faces that are still in the State Democratic party like SHS, Brendan Johnson, and one of my favorites Billie Sutton. Yes I know Billie is not liberal enough for your liking Cory, but that young man would run well in South Dakota and there is nothing wrong with a strong moderate.

    Believe it or not SD has had one party control of the Governorship longer then any other State in the country (1979). I'm starting to wonder at this point if I will ever see a Democratic Governor again in my lifetime.

    I do think the whole gun control debate which is not talked about much on here is very much a "silent" wedge issue that does not help Democrats in our State. I wish Rick Weiland would address exactly where he stands on gun control since he and Pressler are being painted as anti-2nd Amendment. Is he in favor of actual gun bans or just background checks? I don't really know because he never talks about it and I can only go on what the other side says. It might seem like a minor issue, but it's a big deal to a lot of moderate Democrats and Independents.

    Anyhow good luck to every in the upcoming election. I guess we will know more in a few days with new polls and of course on election day.

  18. Jim 2014.10.26

    Rick, make sure to GOTV hard on I-29. Grudz, can I have your granny's hasenpfeffer recipe?

  19. Sid 2014.10.26

    Would be nice to see a few perp walks this week.

  20. BlackHills76 2014.10.26

    Larry ironically the issues that people support many times do not correlate with how they vote in our State. We have ended up with things like Referred Law 14 and 16 that were soundly defeated by voters in 2012 after being brought to the ballot by Democrats. How about the abortion bans that failed twice? Or how about the fact that That doesn't make a lot of sense, but it is just how things have always rolled around this place. Heck even the Constitutional gay marriage ban barely passed and actually failed West river. Does any of that make sense? LOL

    I'm interested to see how the minimum wage vote goes. It would not surprise me to see it pass even though candidates who oppose it will win at the same time.

  21. BlackHills76 2014.10.26

    Sorry my last post was a little messed up, but basically what I was saying is that the people we support are many times at odds with the ballot measures we support or oppose. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but I have seen it many times in our State.

  22. Jane 2014.10.26

    People of SD needs to wake up and smell the reality. The general public are naive, that is why the corrupt unabashedly rob in front of your face. They know they will get away with it. And they are with loads of money.

  23. john tsitrian 2014.10.26

    I think apathetic more than naive, Jane.

  24. Rae Lynn 2014.10.26

    Word has it in eastern SD that neither Harriet Pressler nor Mrs. Rounds wanted her husband to run for this office. So people,let's help these poor ladies out with our votes for Weiland!!

  25. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.10.26

    If that's the word, Rae Lynn, let's take these ladies out to coffee and get them on the record telling folks to vote for Weiland!

  26. Roger Cornelius 2014.10.26

    In today's Rapid City Journal besides their Republican endorsement of Noem, Daugaard, and Jackley, they ran two full pages furthering the Rounds lie about Rick's position on Ellsworth. SDDP had a single three quarter page ad by Johnson bluntly refuting the liar Rounds.

  27. paladn98 2014.10.26

    It is a shame that many persons in South Dakota, most living West of the Missouri River, enter the polling booth with no mindset except looking for the "R" next to the candidate's name. Who cares about position on any issue. As long as they have the "R", that makes the difference and the only difference. Thought is a thing of the past.

  28. grudznick 2014.10.26

    Perhaps, Ms. Paladin, you are simply mistaken. I am sure you are wise enough to realize that you are not as all knowing as all. Perhaps, most living West of the Missouri River are wiser than you and are voting their minds and not their bleeding hearts. Respectful people can disagree respectfully, that is what my granny would have taught me if I had ever met my granny.

  29. caheidelberger Post author | 2014.10.27

    Roger, it seems noteworthy that RCJ does Daugaard, Noem, and Jackley all in one article and saves the Senate race for later, probably for its own editorial. I would like to think they are having a tough time coming to a conclusion, or perhaps waiting to see which way the poll numbers blow, but I suppose it's more likely they're just saving the marquee race for last to get more people to buy papers later in the week.

  30. Roger Cornelius 2014.10.27

    The Journal will either endorse Rounds or nobody at all following Kate's editorial in the Mobridge Times.

    Should the Journal endorse Rounds as expected, they'll be damned if the do and damned if they don't, they'll cut the loss and give it to Rounds

    It does seem odd that they didn't give Rounds the nod in the Sunday edition, they knew they couldn't wait to endorse Rounds next Sunday, three days before the election.

  31. Joan Brown 2014.10.27

    I hope this poll and any others that put Rounds in the lead are horribly wrong.

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