The Pennington County Republicans send me their list of committee chairs for the 2015–2016 term:
- Membership: Burton Sly
- Events: David Fisk
- Media: David Johnson
- Bylaws and Ethics: David Johnson
- Technical Director: Doug Dlugosz
- Fundraising: Perry and Gretchen Strombeck
- Hill City Coordinator: SD Rep. Mike Verchio
- E. Pennington County Coordinator: Ted Hustead
- Office Coordinator: Shannon Royer
- Outreach: Ken Davis, JP Duniphan, Craig Ericks, Jessica Holt, MaryVee Knauer, and Tom Udager
Curious: are any of those committee chairs leading lights in the hard-core Napoli-Howie arch-conservative wing of the party? Or does the make-up of the Pennington County GOP reflect the failure of Howie-ites to form any viable political movement?
Lora Hubbel is starting a "Truth Campaign" to expose the darkness and corruption of SD politics. I sent you Lora's email Cory. This group does not discriminate. This is a movement for truth and integrity. Everyone welcome including whistleblowers.
David Johnson is a good guy. Verchio is batshit crazy.
All RINOs except Verchio.
Ted Hustead is an earth hater through and through.
Verchio truly is batshit crazy.
Hustead, thinks the Spearfish Canyon folks are a$$holes for not welcoming his gold mine over the top of Latchstring Inn.
Verchio and Hustead are members of the Church of the Holy Roman Kiddie Diddlers: anyone know who else on the above list are?
verchio, hustead right wingers i'd say.
That's an insult to right wingers, Mose.
Larry, you are hilarious Hmmm... I wonder what church you're talkin' about....
"I told that priest if he touched me one more time i'd $#%ing kill him"....the altar boy said to the dirty bastard. (A joke I heard one on David Letterman)
Thanks, Jenny but that line belongs to another Larry. Lennox schools on lockdown after a reported shooting.
Just remember there are dirty little bastard leaders in every denomination and religion. The RCC takes top prize for keeping their dirty deeds secret for decades and decades.
verchio way out there and Hustead another one.
There are still many Howites of Gordantic proportions lurking in the shadows of the County of Pennington. There are even more hiding in the County of Custer. Do not lounge on your hindquarters assuming these people, who are insaner than most, are not lurking to undermine the Republican Party by shacking up with libertines.
A friends niece wounded and other deaths reported, Larry. Sounds like over a load the truck driver thought didn't pay enough.
Would it be more accurate to say Hustead's a money-winger, not a right-winger?
There is a lot of wing-nuttery in Rapid City, I'm surprised Howie doesn't get along better with them.
Grudz, you made me laugh again. "Howites of Gordantic proportions"
What's South Dakota Democratic Party's structure look like? Anything comparable? Anything happening at all?
Funny, Taunia: the Pennington GOP sent me the press release listing those committee chairs. I have received no comparable press from local Dems.
Because there isn't any.
State party Democrats have lost all sense and semblance of astroturfing the grassroots to the point of simply ignoring down ticket structuring, and that comes from the top - the DNC, who is still trying to pretend to fight its way out of the paper bag Wall Street is strangling them with. Democrats are so far behind in manipulating the bottom they're not even in the ball game.
Does it show?
Not sure who you are 'Taunia,' but the Pennington Co Dems meet monthly, 6 pm, 4th Tues in the RC Public Library. Love to meet you there.
Our election of officers will take place (per St Pty constitution) at our regular monthly mtg in April. Come join the 'ballgame.'
Taunia lives in Missouri, Curt and I live in New Mexico: if there is a living PennCo party they don't update their non-FB web presence.
Pennington County sent a skeleton crew to the convention in Yankton and LawCo sent no one, Curt: are you running for something?
Here's a neat one, lar. Go to the google page and look for
"Nutrient Buffer’s unique ratio of nutrients will help naturally correct imbalances"
I don't know what a Nutrient Buffer is but the 7th google page that comes up when you search for that is the Pennington County Democratic page. It says all their officers are under the construction.
Curt, nearly every county in every state in the union attempts to form some club or committee based on some variation of the word "Democrat".
95% of the time they're in it by themselves. Whatever they can piece together is up to them; if it floats or dies, no one but the 5-10 Democrats involved notices.
Pennington County Democrats do not have the structure the PC Republicans have as Cory laid out above. You don't have the resources and the party support to do so. I hoped with Cheryl Chapman being SDDP Chair it would change. I always had high hopes for her.
It's not your fault, Curt. It's everywhere. It's top down, by design, not bottom up. When Democrats wanted a seat at the table and sold out to Wall Street they gave up their working people platform. Just as the Republicans had to restructure, so do the Democrats, except it's currently not happening. The '08 Obama campaign had a decent start on restructuring and used immense grassroots and local talent resources. When OFA morphed in to the DNC, it all got lost for corporate politics and money.
You'll work your tail off in your little corner of the world, gather some people in your general vicinity, throw a few fundraisers that raise a few dollars, get lucky and have a few local candidates drop in your lap that probably won't win, etc. Repeat. Same story everywhere.
What if you had the party-sponsored structure the PC GOP had?
As Larry pointed out, I am now in Missouri, have been for 14 years. I lived in eastern Pennington Co 15 years before that and in western South Dakota for 15 before that.
Curt, the South Dakota Democratic Party is on life support and bankrupt; Cory holds it together with his blog. Expats like Taunia and I send money because we're too stupid to give up and South Dakota is too precious to concede to the earth haters just yet. I have two daughters swimming in the Pennington County sewer but they are months from escaping: soon, I hope.
I was involved with Pennington County Democratic Party during the 1990s. It did fairly well for a time. There was a mix of people---professionals, activists, enlightened business folks. We didn't agree on everything, but we were able to elect a few folks to the Legislature and county commission.
It was clear to me that the Democrats who were electable out there had to come from the professional or business community, and tended to be very connected to the community and more conservative. There were occasional exceptions, but the more activist elected officials tended be "one and done" office holders. And, actually, the elected Republicans in the 1990s would now probably be considered RINOs. They were more pragmatic.
These things go in cycles, but it's been a long stretch of defeat for Democrats in Pennington County. I'm not sure how it can be turned around.
What's happening with SDProgressives? Anything new and different coming from them?
SD Progress is meeting in Pierre Friday Feb 20th and the SDDP Central Committee is meeting in Pierre also the next day Saturday Feb 21st.
Thanks Lynn. I'm glad to hear that. The state needs the SDP. Are you involved with them?
Larry: I come here for the free coffee and doughnuts and to watch you lob out HRKD lines.
Donald: "activist elected officials tended be "one and done" office holders."// You mean one term in office? Sounds like a painful way of saying how unwelcoming politics are.
Taunia, maybe Cory will run for something rather than away from something.
Larry, what exactly have I run away from lately?
Perhaps Donald meant "one run and done"?
I was among the 'skeleton crew' who represented Pennington County at last June's convention in Yankton. Our Chair, Vice-Chair, Committee Woman, and Committee Man also attended, in addition to four others who completed our full complement of voting delegates.
Does it seem to anyone else that fighting rear guard missions against folks who one might think would be less hostile is sort of misguided?
No freebies for you today, Larry. Maybe increase your fiber intake.
I like it when Cory pokes the beehive.
Cory: i believe you have run away from a progressive agenda to pacify the center.
Curt: work harder.
Taunia, my fiber intake is optimal: lots of home-baked bread and local tortillas loaded with beans and rice.
Larry - Thanks much for the advice. I wish it had come from someone who had more of a grasp on important facts.
Curt: I was in Yankton for the convention where it became evident that the South Dakota Dems are broke and broken. I am a donor but won't give another dime to SDDP until all county chairs are filled.
Thanks for all your help, Larry. It appears perhaps your beef may not be w/ Penn Dems but rather those other counties. If you're content to wait 'til all 66 counties have active Dem organizations, your precious funds will be safe in NM.
Don't get butthurt, Curt. You'll get tired of banging your head against the wall, too, like the rest of us that went down the trail you're on and figured it out the hard way.
Interesting that a post about the failure of Gordon Howie to mobilize any effective radical conservative movement should turn to a question of whether I have run from a progressive agenda toward the center. Show of hands, folks: how many of you see me running toward the center? Please include examples with your vote.
Calling gay men and Lesbians homosexuals is one example, Cory; you have completely avoided cannabis as a real world alternative to alcohol: should i go on?
I'll vote after I see Larry post specific examples of Cory turning his back on a progressive agenda.
Progressives don't call cannabis 'marijuana' in any setting.
Cory has posted about the effort to legalize medical marijuana numerous times here in South Dakota including when Ryan Gaddy was promoting it.
'Medical marijuana' is a hoax, Lynn: akin to the 'recreational alcohol' sold by Big Booze.
Larry can you list other examples where Cory is turning his back on progressives?
Larry, do you have a problem with the content of that link or the way it is titled? Personally I don't see an issue with it. Cannabis, marijuana, refer, herb, weed whatever you want to call it, what difference does that make? In a shit state like this you have to pick your battles, medical is a battle that will have to be won long before the recreational fight can begin. Cory to the center? Sorry, I don't see it.
Howie still has a well from which he dips because the Hills are infested with people just like him.
Cory and our party needs progressives, Lynn; if Cory runs for office he automatically gets money from me because he is the smartest guy in the room. Democrats won't turn out for GOP-lite: it's just that simple.
If I understand this correctly, Larry is asserting that Cory has turned this back on the progressive agenda because of his selection and use of particular words.
Is there is a progressive agenda committee or a dictionary that dictates how we are to talk and write?
Larry, I fail to see how people that use words interchangeably are more or less progressive than others.
Cory was quoting the Mitchell Daily Republic letter to the editor by John Shaw.
Well Larry, the Hills are infested with a lot of bugs, Howie and his ilk are just one of them. Cory I think would be a great progressive to represent his district or even the whole state in the Gov's chair. That needs to be a decision he makes, not the rest of us and he does do dems a great service right here.
I don't see Cory anywhere but on the left.
I am very liberal, but I didn't know there were certain code words I should be using. My usual word is "weed," but sometimes I call it marijuana. I generally use the initials LBTG, but I haven't seen that used anywhere else. As I said, I don't know anything about any particular language rules for liberals or progressives.
As someone said earlier, these attacks by lefties on lefties remind me of the circular firing squads we like to chide others for. Demanding absolute purity is a lose/lose deal. That kind of thing will marginalize us just like the tea baggers.
I think the win/win is that we push for what we want while recognizing that winning elections requires accepting the fact that the electorate does not move quickly.
We have less than a year to build a ticket, people and now is the time to design the message. Party chairs need to be recruited and money needs to be raised: unless that happens Cory is just another pissed off Democrat venting his spleen into the wind.
Democrats running as GOP-lite will lose: we already know that. You want to help fix our chances? Send the party some money and don't get sidetracked by charlatans.
"Party chairs need to be recruited and money needs to be raised" Do you mean County positions? We already have state party chair positions filled.
County chairs especially. Delegates need to be recruited to stand up to big vote counties like Minnehaha did at the convention. They dominated the floor discussion over language and voted down dissent because they deliver large vote counts.
No doubt Howie diverts cash from SDGOP just like SD Progress will do: how is that good for SDDP?
What language and dissent specifically were you concerned about at the convention from the big counties like Minnehaha?
I was planning to start making fundraising calls for both SDDP and South Dakota Progress. Each has it's own mission but share a common goal with what I understand. They don't conflict yet compliment each other and my lists are completely separate.
Minnehaha County damned near wrote the platform making sure the language was jammed to the center: repeatedly and mercilessly.
Wow. I went out and enjoyed a pleasant afternoon recreating in the Black Hills. As far as I know I did not encounter any of Gordon's mafia, but it seems we have plenty of friendly fire here on Cory's blog. It's just weird.
If you're a fan of your local BB team, do you beat up on its players because you think they have a bad coach? Hell, I don't know - maybe they do in NM and MO. And please don't preach to us in SD from your high perch in whatever state you've absconded to.
If Cory talked like Larry Kurtz, I probably wouldn't read him everyday.
Is it 'lol', or 'troll'?
Oh, stop. Quit acting like a tea party perpetual victim. You get butthurt over comments from people who don't have much choice but to most likely vote with your obsolete party, you aren't going to survive hand to hand combat with the right, especially tea party.
You want to get some shit done? Things your blessed party isn't going to do or give two shits you do? Watch tea party organizing videos, they're all over the internet. They didn't invent organizing, they just conjured up old organizing ways and put them to use. They're on the ground, going door to door, crafting the message that's resonating with people right now.
Use the VAN, input and output.
Take an issue - payday loans are the perfect organizing vehicle in SD right now - and work the hell out of it. Canvass. Medicaid Expansion.
Read Alinsky. The tea party took every last one of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and use them to the max. They just don't know it was Alinsky.
Hit me up if you want more suggestions, Curt. But don't act like your pissing on the rest of us is gaining your party any votes or edge in the game.
Why is Curt getting attacked? He is a volunteer among many out there doing the grunt work as I plan on doing.
There gets to be a point when you move to another state and have nothing positive to add that you should just move on mentally especially if it becomes toxic to the efforts of those that actually reside in South Dakota.
"If Cory talked like Larry Kurtz, I probably wouldn't read him everyday."
I would not be here at Madville and would not waste my time volunteering for any party or political effort it represented.
Use my name when you're talking to me, Lynn. Step outside your comfort zone. A good productive organizer is direct and doesn't mince words.
You're so sure of the South Dakota Democratic Party - and its tried and true ways - you're working with a break off group. Your confidence in the party is oozing out of your pores.
At least you've kicked your can a little further down the road than Curt has. He's got at least another year to get where you are, maybe a whole election cycle.
Btw, I'm certain I have more family in South Dakota than you do, and a good number of them haven't been contacted by anyone in the SD Democratic party in years. The Republicans are courting the hell out of them and winning.
So make your fundraising calls for at least two different parties/orgs, neither of which you have anything to show for. Ignore the canvassing, the organizing issues staring you in the face, the real voter outreach, and everything else it takes to build consensus and a voting bloc. Money's the only thing that counts to both parties at this point; Democrats have finally embraced Citizen's United.
You're fitting in perfectly to the failing ways of the Democratic Party. The tea party thanks you.
I'm in my comfort zone and comparing my family tree here in South Dakota to yours is irrelevant.
You have lived in another state for over a decade now right? Ask yourself. Do your comments in this thread help or hurt the efforts for those that actually still live here in the state? What purpose do they serve?
If what your throwing out is primarily negative here on a South Dakota political blog isn't it time to move on and focus on your life in Missouri? Maybe things are significantly better there in regards to your comfort zone where there is not a need to be politically active. Hey! That's cool! Every state has it's challenges and if it's bad enough there you can use your experience and skills to help bring about positive change in Missouri. Otherwise you will just end up sabotaging efforts here.
Primarily negative, Lynn? It's only negative to you because you don't like hearing it.
Everything I mentioned above - canvassing, door knocking and VAN work - I have done myself in the last month. We dropped over 2,000 pieces of lit - mostly Medicaid Expansion - in 4 different towns in the last 15 days. I've looked up addresses and related information on about 150 potential voters with about 500 more to go this week. We've organized 4 new women's solidarity events since January 15. We had a dirty coal/clean energy public event last Thursday. I'll be at the MO Capitol Tuesday for a Voter ID committee hearing. I'll be at Equality Day next week at the Capitol. We registered people to vote and placed them with an ACA navigator at the volunteer income tax preparation site I work at Monday nights.
Every bit of this is geared to one day: November 8, 2016.
I did every minute of the above outside the state Democratic party. They're not doing shit but sending me emails for donations.
You're not special or different than mine, or any other state. You're unorganized and operating under an outdated system. Take it as an attack, cry, bitch about me, whatever.
Cory, it's my last post on this thread. No need to chastise me.
That's great! Keep up the good work in Missouri! Focus on that!
Rather than slam the efforts of volunteers here in your old state of SD let us find our own way. Every volunteer has different skills and experience to offer. They have their own demands in life to deal with being work, family or whatever.
Good luck in Missouri!
I continue to welcome the observations and suggestions of our loyal South Dakota ex-pat community, with their wisdom informed by experience in other states' political systems.
The invitation remains open - Penn Dems meet 4th Tues each month, 6 PM in RC Public Library. Your presence and assistance are most welcome. Save your advice - we have plenty of armchair consultants.
Hey, Curt: is Robbinsdale Radical really radical or is it just warm milk?
Not sure who 'Robbinsdale Radical' is ... but he/she is probably no threat to you.
You're not Curt Price, apparently.
No, I am not Curtis Price. If you want to continue this dialog, Cory has my permission to give you my contact info.
Actually, Curt: i couldn't care less, have waived my atheism and am now praying that Rapid City becomes victim to the Yellowstone supervolcano.
... just wondering what I did to deserve Larry's prayers. He seems like such a pleasant fellow.
Which part of failed state escapes you, Curt? South Dakota is a white welfare mother whose breasts have been removed and replaced with genetically engineered faucets dispensing formula.
Curt Happy Monday!! lol
Thank you for the service to the Pennington County Dems and to the SDDP. Your efforts are appreciated by some
Taunia says the words everyone hates to hear. "Get your fanny perpendicular" or for the sake of the younger generation, Jana, "get off your ass and get to work."
Thanks for the kind words. We don't do what we do for the tremendous rewards we receive. We do it for the cause we believe in. It can be unpleasant to hear the 'your baby is ugly' criticism, but I for one have no plans to commit any less time and effort to the cause - nor to leave the state.
Curt, I appreciate the work you, Lynn, and all the others are doing in SD. I don't think it serves SDDP's ends to denigrate those of us who've left SD. We continue to have much to offer SD, not limited to donations to the organization.
I moved to MN because I could no longer cope with what felt to me like a constant bombardment of anger, pain, ignorance, corruption, confusion and lies. Others have managed better. Good for them. I commend each of those folks who remain in SD and continue the struggle.
As in every struggle, there are a variety of ways to contribute. MN is a very blue state that demonstrates over and over how liberal government can function, how liberal economics can serve the entire population, what real compassionate government looks like, and much more.
I try to offer information on what works that my SD friends and family can adapt. I provide resources from a state that has a great deal more. SDP is offering the model that worked very well in CO. I offer models that are working in MN. I provide links to comparisons between MN and WI because those very similar states show, in vivid example, the difference between far right government in WI and liberal government in MN. SD can use that for proof that liberal policies work and tea bagger policies fail. WI is the Koch state and it's economy sucks.
Curt, I hope you will keep your arms open and accept all the help that comes from any sources. Accept the critics too, as long as they have more to offer than attacks. Criticism is useful, and not personal. SDDP is not working successfully, so changes must be made.
Deb-you wouldn't,by chance,have traversed iowa highway 59 northbound last Saturday afternoon about 2:30pm in a white Chevy Blazer? with Minn plates and a large christian cross on the passenger side of the hatch back? Just south of Calumet,iowa.
"I don't think it serves SDDP's ends to denigrate those of us who've left SD."
Deb first of all you have always been very positive.
We all know it's broken and many of the issues mentioned are no secret. It is extremely frustrating to all of us! It's also a tragedy for those who felt they needed to reluctantly move from South Dakota leaving those they loved and cared about behind. We all lost people that had much to contribute to the rest of us in so many ways by moving.
Where I feel it crosses the line is for example what happened earlier on this thread giving volunteers a hard time for not working hard or smart enough in a very negative manner and then turn around basically telling them they are wasting their time.
Larry who lives in New Mexico has repeatedly threatened commenters here by asking if they want to be his enemy or threatens to "out" them. That does not include all the other vile comments made.
I know it was painful to leave the state but at some point you have to move on and let others within the state make mistakes and find their way especially if your comments are counterproductive. You become a liability for the effort here.
Nope Mike. It wasn't me. I can't drive a Chevy. I might curdle up and die if I did. I grew up in a Ford and John Deere farm family. Dad built Ford race cars, uncle drove. I even drove one year and it was a blast!
I don't put crosses on my vehicle. It seems like bragging to me, as if being Christian was something I achieved because I was so damn righteous! As if I was better because of something I could not possibly accomplish by myself. Please. (That's just my, possibly skewed, perception of those religious car decorations.)
Didn't expect a mini-rant in response to your innocent question did ya! I'd like to run into you sometime. I think we'd have a fun chat.
4th Tues at the library, 6pm? Hummm, any chance I could drop by?
"he has a vile temper"
synonyms: foul, nasty, unpleasant, bad, disagreeable, horrid, horrible, dreadful, abominable, atrocious, offensive, obnoxious, odious, unsavory, repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, loathsome, hateful, nauseating, sickening;
morally bad; wicked.
"as vile a rogue as ever lived"
of little worth or value.
yep, pretty much sums it up! >:^(
John Deere and Fords,huh? Here is the only Ford I'd own-----
I also drove a White Field Boss for 31 years. We had a 620 JD with a hand clutch for snow removal. No cab,no heat houser. You'd be fun to talk to,just make sure you holler loud enough for me to hear you. Please address my right ear. Left one doesn't hear much at all. :)
Larry if volunteers are making phone calls or knocking on doors and we are able to motivate South Dakotans to start looking beyond their everyday lives and act there is a chance they may check out blogs. What impression is that going to give them when we are trying to build support? They might see angry extremists and could be a major turnoff basically shooting ourselves in the foot.
We share many of the same goals but in frustration can you control your anger or does the anger control you?
As i told Fleming, Lynn: just enjoying the view from the pinnacle of my Maslovian pyramid. I am a Democratic Party donor, Madville is the only game in a dying town and i love my pocket cards. You?
It's your money to donate to the Democratic Party. You realize that your negative behavior may hamper your return on investment here in SD right?
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Zinda, his face black, his eyes red. Kiazi's children, their faces wet. Chenza at court, the court of silence. Shaka, when the walls fell.
Star Trek? I had to look that up and it's been a long time. lol Wish a new series would be created.
Hope to see you next Tues (we meet in the 2nd floor mtg rm). All are welcome - even Larry.
Larry is a Democrat Activist that speaks from the heart. Maybe people get a little offended, not by what you say, but how you say it. Keep talking Larry, the Party needs more people like you. I just think SD Democrats are afraid to step out of the center for fear of offending their Republican friends.
I understand what you are saying Lynn. It's in my nature to want the best for others, and even more when they are trying to do the right thing.
I was very fortunate to have a boss who was bluntly critical when I screwed up. "That's no good. . . You can't turn in something like that. . . You have to do that over. . . etc." He explained what I had to change, and didn't include encouraging language like, "I know you're trying." His voice was not gentle either. It was wrong! Fix it! But I realized he liked me. The problem was my Work and the negative Results it would bring, not Me.
Learning that lesson has been golden ever since. Obviously, I'm not like that boss. I am trying to say that you can take what might be helpful from others and put the rest aside, perhaps temporarily.
Larry can be hard to hear. So don't read his comments or don't take them personally. I think Larry has a good heart, but it can be difficult to tell sometimes. (On the other hand, I like Grudz and the same can be said about him.)
BTW, I'm happy to tell people I'm from SD. I tell them it's a wonderful state with beautiful land, some wonderful people, and a terribly corrupt and backward government.
see mercers article today, daugaard urging candidate to get active. DEMS-PAY ATTENTION.
Speaking of strong candidates, if SDGOP past sec./lawyer sara frankenstein would run, she'd be more formidable as a repub than lots of us say herseth sandlin would be. yikes
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